The Playoff Loss Shouldn't Impact Roster Decisions
by Brandon on Jan 16, 2012 4:00 PM CST
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Packersnews.com | Green Bay Packers | Insiders Blog " Driver puts the ball in the Packers’ court. I don't know if their playoff loss was the last game that Donald Driver will play for the Green Bay Packers. But he's currently due $5 million in total for the 2012 season, and that's too high. He's unlikely to find $5 million per season from any other team, and he was still a useful part of their offense in 2011, so it would seem they'd be able to agree on a reasonable contract for next season.
Some players like Ryan Grant took a pay cut before last season to stay. Several other players were released or allowed to leave in free agency last summer for various reasons. I think Daryn Colledge wasn't pursued in free agency because he cost too much, but other players were let go (like the immortal Justin Harrell) because they didn't deserve to be on the roster.
The Packers will have some tough decisions to make, and they certainly have to make some changes on defense. But that would have been the case whether they won or lost on Sunday. I don't think they're going to change their philosophy based on one game, no matter how hard this hits them. I'm expecting they'll do their usual push to keep the players they decide are worth keeping, and I don't except them to make any rash decisions after this loss.
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That's not TT's M.O.
We’ll be fine. We’ll be better next year than this year. TT will make smart decisions.
and I thought I’d share this little nugget to make you all feel better: We could be Vikings fans! That would be SOOOOOO much worse. See below…
I was in a foul mood last night (shocking I know) and I went to dailynorseman.com just to see what that complete tool Christopher Gates had cooked up to celebrate the Packers loss. The title of the article was "Something happened on the way to the coronation". You can just guess how many haters were out.
Well, I engaged them respectfully (stupidly you may say – and you’d be right). And I made the statement:
"GB will compete at this level for years. We only have three free agents of note and the 2nd youngest roster in the league, as well as a great GM, great HC and the best player in the league at QB. We’ll be fine."
To which they responded:
"That’s what we thought after 2009. Things change quickly in the NFL. You’re in for a major rebuild".
I mean WHAT THE F###???? Everyone that’s not a hater knows GB will be fine long term. TT ensures that. Everyone that’s also not a Vikings homer knew that their window was all but closed in 09.
How dumb can people be????
Just don't bother with the Daily Norseman.
It’s not worth it.
by mike_o on Jan 16, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
This gives me an idea.
Photoshop opportunities and rage comics galore! :)
But I will echo the sentiment. Don’t go there and give that worthless site page hits. Nothing intelligent has come from getting baited by that troll.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 16, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I am torn on Driver
I love the guy — definitely one of my favorite Packers of all time. But, I cannot justify bringing him back. The team needs to maintain a certain amount of turnover on the roster to ensure that young players are always being groomed. I think this is the case with the wide receivers. We obviously have better veteran receivers. We can afford to lose Driver and see what guys like Gurley can become.
Yeah, going to have to make a business decision
I think Driver is classy enough to understand the situation and leave on good terms, if he still wants to play. And honestly, the way he played down the stretch, he showed he still has something left. And a lot of teams could use a savvy veteran WR.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 16, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
IMO there's no question he can still be a very serviceable receiver in the NFL
but probably shouldn’t be here next year taking opportunities away from Cobb and Jones
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Driver is Money!
Donald Driver has the best hands when it gets cold. He’s still fast, and unlike a number that’s 8 higher than his, he catches the damn ball!! $5 mil is too high though, especially when for some reason Rodgers won’t throw him the ball. What I want to hear more than anything in mid-April is, “With the 28th pick in the 2012 draft the Green Bay Packers pick from the University of Illinois, Whitney Mercilus, (or from Penn State, Devon Still)!” Ted Thompson should have to take a pay cut for letting Cullen Jenkins go! How do you repeat winning the Super Bowl? You keep the same people you had last year! Granted, we didn’t get slammed on offense because we let Colledge go, but Jenkins was going to give us a hometown discount! He WANTED to stay!! Lockout be damned, when that injunction happened, Ted should have been on the phone with Cullen’s agent, asking what he wanted and giving him what he could. Clay Matthews should have been standing on Ted’s desk the entire time. That’s why Clay did what he did last year, Cullen drew 2, BJ got 2, Pickett got 1, Clay had to beat a TE or RB to get to the QB. Hard to throw for 330 yards, and 3 TD’s when you’re running for your life, or when you’re face mask is in the turf of Lambeau field!
Roster
Anyone know a good location for a roster matrix with who we have under control for how long? Be an interesting way to get the offseason discussion started.
Re Driver
I feel like he can contribute in spot situations next year, but it certainly wont be for 5 million. And if he does get cut, I highly doubt any team will sign him. Just look at Terrell Owens, granted he was coming off of surgery, but there isn’t a market for 37 year old receivers.
I love DD, but its gonna be hard to keep him. We can probably carry 6 WR on the roster next year, but that means one TE goes. Who do you cut? Finley needs to come back, Quarless will probably start out next year on the PUP, Williams has decent potential, Taylor is a special teams core player, and Crabtree is our best blocker (Quarless was starting to challenge him for that though). Maybe Crabtree would get the axe when Quarless comes back?
That's what I was thinking
Swap DD for Crabtree if Donald takes a (significant) pay cut.
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 16, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Driver is not a headcase like Owens
I guarantee a team will sign him if he gets cut
football does not build character, it reveals character.
HAVE to bring DD back
no team will pay 5mill for him (well, maybe the Vikings). If JJ is only getting like 3.33 per year, I don’t see why Donald won’t be forced to take a pay cut.
His last TD, he ran across the end zone with the ball, then decided to flip it to the refs. If he thought he was done, I think he would have kept the ball.
REPORTER: What do you think is happening to the team?
MICHAEL RAY RICHARDSON: The ship be sinking.
REPORTER: How far can it sink?
MICHAEL RAY RICHARDSON: Sky's the limit.
by uofmike on Jan 16, 2012 5:05 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I don't even think they'll have to force a pay cut
I can see him gladly taking a pay cut in order to stay in Green Bay. Plus as others have noted, no other teams are likely to pay him that much anyway.
Hometown discount.
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This is conjecture...
I really think a lot of the reason our young WRs contributed right away was learning from a guy like DD. I don’t want to underestimate his value just because his targets and TDs went down.
He’s a GB lifer and will probably work something out to stay for cheaper like Grant.
by PackerFanInTN on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I could see DD doing this
Wanting the 5 million but breaking it over 2-3 years. No more than 2.5 a year for him would be a great investment in my eyes.
He thinks he is returning
Won’t know for sure till doctor sees him in March.
by king.nothing on Jan 16, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
March is the key month
His tweets during the season made it seem like he wasn’t going to return, but he seems to be more optimistic lately. Wants to make sure that his neck is fully healed and that there is no chance of serious injury if he returns to football. He realizes that this is just a game, and not worth risking your future for.
On the plus side, I think he has said he has an interest in coaching. Could be looking at our future secondaries coach.
I don't think our offense needs a lot
Remember, we had the highest scoring offense in NFL in 2011.
-Finley. Lots of potential, but gets on everyone’s nerves with his inconsistency and frankly I’m tired of his antics – pointing at every first down like he just made a game clinching play in the SB. With that said, I want him back. Look, he may never be Graham or Gronk. Those guys don’t grow on trees. But he’s pretty good, and if he works hard and pays more attention to fundamentals than twitter, JF can be pretty useful for our offense. In his first full year, he had a serviceable year. Not great, but not as bad either. Vernon Davis, the hero of SF, had the same year.
His price would be a hot topic. Ideally, I want us to lock him up for a few years. However, the market for TE has been off the rocker in recent years including the Titans just shelling about $15 mill for a blocking TE who can’t block, and not-such-household-names like Miller and Boss who got a king’s ransom. If TT can work out a deal with JF, it would be ideal so that we can tag the guy below….
-Flynn. Tag and trade. Easier said than done but Flynn could be a hot trading chip for the Pack. I’m not worried about the tag. If I were a QB needy team, I would give up my first pick (short of drafting Luck and maybe RGIII) to get a polished QB, who’s been under a great QB system for years, in his prime, ready to start, rather than try my luck with Blaine Gabberts or the world.
Also, this may be more fantasy than reality, but here’s a scenario. The Raiders, who just got McKenzie, are about to get Moss. Now they did give up a ton to get Palmer, but he was Hue Jackson’s guy. Mckenzie did not give CP a vote of confidence when he joined the Raiders. Now, Michael Bush is very likely going to get tagged by Oak this year. A swap Flynn for Bush would be wonderful, right….which brings us to our running game.
RBs. Bush and Starks could be just what this offense needs to be even more of a monster than it is. Throw in Green and we’re all set. I don’t think Grant is coming back. Just not the same player he was pre-injury. This team needs some help running the ball. Anyone high on Mike Tolbert? 26 years old RB who’s ready to hit the market.
-Driver. I would love for him to retire as a Packer. I have no objection to giving him a decent contract for one or two years.
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Jan 16, 2012 7:01 PM CST reply actions
frankly I’m tired of his antics – pointing at every first down like he just made a game clinching play in the SB.
Do you get equally upset when Donald does his first down dance. Or Rodgers when he points for a first down?
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 16, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
No
One has earned it with an illustrious career. The other has earned it by being the best player in the game.
If JF plays to the level of those guys I don’t care if he moonwalks for 10 minutes.
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Jan 16, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Two word green.
Even nicer.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
I kinda agree.
But when he catches the ball and makes a first down, I feel so relieved that he actually caught the ball, that I don’t care what he does.
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by arodgb on Jan 16, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
You must like big, bruising running backs.
On Finley, I hope we resign him. He opens up the offense, drops or not.
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MattFlynn4StartingQB
3rd down running back.
Quick dude. Not a big bruiser. He looked really impressive at Hawaii, although he had some huge holes to run through. Huge holes, bro. Gigantic freakin’ holes that he just wiggled right into.
He got a few touches. I remember him catching a screen, other than that, I don’t remember much. He was inactive a couple games, if I remember correctly, and was probably our worst draft pick last year. Jury’s still out, so that’s premature.
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Ricky Elmore
gets the prize for being the worst draft pick last year. Had Green not torn his ACL he could have given us something on 3rd down we did not have.
Ah
You got that one right. Dang, he was awful.
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Give Strohman some props
for pretty much calling that one when he was drafted, IIRC.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Green
Was just about to get involved more into the offense when that injury happened at the Vikings game. Shame too. And I would agree completely with your analysis. Has pass blocking experience, and good triangle numbers (height, weight, speed). Hard to get a feel on how he will do running inside the tackles, but he did play in a more conventional offense before he transferred to Hawaii.
That polished QB
Only has two career starts to his name. You gonna bet your first and some serious cash on a 26 year old with two starts? Especially with how Kolb performed in Arizona after getting his huge payday (I will admit he had difficult circumstances)? The QB needy teams are all picking in the top 15 or so too. Flynn won’t get a top 15 pick.
What he could get us would be a high second rounder, or maybe we swap firsts and get their third round pick. But that’s a still big if, and a risky situation. Its unlikely we sign and trade him.
Well
Considering that there’s only two top tier QB’s this year, whoever doesn’t get Griffin, yet needs a starting quarterback could be willing to give up a first. Maybe the Jets, maybe the Dolphins, whoever. I wouldn’t do it, but it only takes one GM to fall in love….
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Look at the risk-reward
Risk: Packers are stuck with about $14 million for a year.
Reward: Trade for picks; trade for established players; should something happen to your starting QB (knock on wood) next year you have more than a capable replacement; Flynn (not so sure if it’s true) can be traded during the year and the cost prorated.
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Jan 16, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Options at ROLB
We basically have two options Free Agency and Draft because I do not see any of the current players emerging.
In free agency, there is actually some interesting players that should be available. First, Mario Williams. Houston may not try to re-sign him due to the emergence of Brooks Reed. Williams was doing pretty well with his position switch before getting injured. He recorded 4 sacks in 4.5 games. Second, Ahmad Brooks. San Francisco is unlikely to re-sign him due to the emergence of Aldon Smith. Brooks had 7 sacks even though Aldon Smith usually came in in passing situations. Third, Anthony Spencer. Had 6 sacks but somewhat underachieved, but still better than the 4-headed monster we threw out this season. All three of these guys are 26 or 27. By my count, the Packers may have about $20-25 million of cap space before dealing with Finley and Wells.
On a side note, Larry Grant of the 49ers is also a free agent. He plays inside but was an absolute machine filling in for Patrick Willis. Sure wouldn’t mind cutting losses on Hawk (who greatly underperformed this season) and replacing him with Grant. The defense needs to add some toughness and Grant would do that.
As for the draft, there are 3 blue chip prospects: Courtney Upshaw, Dont’a Hightower, and Nick Perry. The only trouble as TT would likely have to trade up to get any one of those guys. One very dim silver lining to yesterdays game is the Packers will be trading up from 28 instead of 32.
The other complicating factor is the need for some talent on the DL. TT cannot go into 2012 with question marks at ROLB and RDE. He has to get a proven commodity at one of those positions. There is not a great deal of talent available via free agency on the DL. Many of the better players are 4-3 DEs so it may be hard to predict a successful transition. There are several intriguing draft prospects at the position, however.
Hawk didn't underperform this season.
He has underperformed his expectations coming out of Ohio State, but since coming into the NFL he has been roughly the same player.
Packers Season
He did underperform
compared to the end of last season where he was at least solid but certainly not spectacular.
No less solid this year.
If you think that isn’t correct, then please explain, specifically, how.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
If you need a tackle made 7 yards downfield, Hawk is your guy.
He doesn’t have the jolt to stop a RB’s momentum. He is in on a lot of tackles but is usually falling backwards while making them.
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
There is no way we get Mario Williams and I HARDLY think the Texans just let someone as great as him just entering his prime to walk away.
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by TrevorR on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Linky?
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
agreed, that's not gonna happen
the Packers getting him I mean. If he hits free agency, someone will pay big money for him but it certainly won’t be Green Bay
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Hmm
I doubt we go after a free agent. As for the draft, Melvin Ingram is a conversion prospect that we should keep an eye on during the combine. I thought Hightower was regarded more of a ILB instead of an OLB though? Another player to watch at the combine would be Bruce Irvin. Need to see how he does standing up and where he weighs though. Not really that many good 34 OLB prospects that can help quickly in this draft.
But for 34 DL (5 techs), this draft is loaded with them. Someone to keep your eye on is Derek Wolfe from Cincinnati. Ideal 5 tech that can pass rush and stop the run.
One-n-done should tell us something
This team had serious weaknesses that the Giants sucessfully exploited. It wasn’t good enough to last in the playoffs. For that reason, i have to disagree with the idea that the Packers should disregard this loss.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 PM CST reply actions
I agree wholeheartedly. This loss doesn’t surprise me, it only confirmed my feelings about the D. I didn’t want to believe my feelings but they were what they were.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
The D?
Sure, they didn’t play great, but the offense turned the ball over 4 times & dropped a ton of passes, and even Rodgers missed on a few throws. The fumble on the first possession of the 2nd half was a killer.
13.
Yes, the D
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty of blame for the offense. But to me the killer was the last 2 plays of the first half. As poorly as they had played they were still in it. Then they come out of a time out and look totally unprepared for any play. They let the Giants run and get a big gain and get out of bounds with what appeared to be very little effort to actually tackle him. Then what may be the worst attempt to cover a hail mary that I’ve ever seen. So instead of going into the locker room knowing they would get the ball with a chance to tie, or even take the lead, they end up down by 2 scores.
I don’t know what TrevorR’s feelings about the D were, but mine were that if they ended up in a game where the offense was off, whether it was a bad day or the other team played great or some combo of that, that the defense wasn’t good enough to win the game. This Packers team won and lost with the offense. I would like to go back to more like last year when I believed the defense could win a game if needed.
December, 7 1941 may be a day that lives in infamy, but December 6, 2011 is a day that will live in AWESOMENESS!!! The day I became part owner of the Green Bay Packers!
In Cheese We Trust
I see where you're coming from.
The 1st half ended poorly & they certainly could have played it better.
Woodson came damn close to knocking that hail mary pass away, though. The coverage was poorly designed, to be sure, but Chuck missed it by that much.
13.
BAH…really dude? You really want to open this up again. Yes our D is awful. Period. I am not dismissing the fact that our offense had a terrible game by any means but our D can’t stop anyone (aside from the Vikings) this year. If the D played better our O would have scored even more points all year. Say what you want about points allowed but I guarantee you Capers was NOT happy about his D this year and I am not either.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Name a team that you think doesn't,
This team had serious weaknesses
and I’m sure that I (or any of a number of people here) can point to one (or more) of their losses and explain which of their serious weaknesses was/were exploited by the team(s) that beat them.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Giants game was a microcosm for our big-picture problems, and I do think we need to make moves to address them
Our pass rush is terrible right now. Losing Cullen Jenkins apparently had a massive impact on our ability to get to the opposing QB. Also, I’d like to know if anything is wrong with Clay Matthews – he kind of fell off a bit this year, he was still solid but not the same level of playmaker he has been. Against the Giants we just never got to Eli, he had forever to throw, and that’s how they completed all those 3rd and longs. Add that to a secondary that REALLY struggled without Nick Collins this year, and we got chewed up.
We need to add a 3-4 OLB or a 3-4 DE that can get upfield and put pressure on the QB. Depending on Collins, we should also maybe look at a FS or consider moving Woodson to FS and drafting another CB. Offensively I think we’d be looking at LT and LG, or possibly RT if they end up moving Bulaga to the left side.
I think you’ll see them pursue the pass rush upgrade pretty aggressively through the draft and FA
by rip_city_swagger on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 AM CST reply actions
LT? Nah, Sherrod/Newhouse/Bulaga will suffice
We definitely need front 7 help, though. I would go for an interior lineman before tackle.
13.
4 keys to NFL success
1. Get a franchise QB. Got that, locked up for several years. Thank god.
2. Protect franchise QB. Done well in 2010, but with Clifton done, this is on shaky ground for the future and a huge reason why we lost yesterday. I was not confident against any potential front seven we would have to face aside from New England’s if we were lucky enough to beat the Giants.
3. Get weapons for franchise QB. Obviously we’re good there, and I think the consensus here is that if Finley re-signs on the cheap, do it. If not, don’t let the door yadda yadda yadda
4. Get guys who can rush the other team’s quarterback. Maybe our biggest achilles heel all year. Without pass rushers, Tramon/Woodson/Burnett/Peprah all had to do a hell of a lot more covering than they would’ve wanted to do. 30th in the NFL this year in sacks, last year we were tied for SECOND. ENORMOUS dropoff in production there. Going from 47 sacks to 29 is inexcusable. I don’t remember how many times I saw quarterbacks rip us apart on 3rd down either, and it drove me nuts yesterday.
All said though, I look at the positives: We’ve still won 21 out of our last 23 games, including last year’s Super Bowl. We’re young and will be back with this sticking in our craw next year. I’m thinking some good vibes for the team to stay healthy, get better, and get back at it and as always In Ted We Trust.
by vitaminx on Jan 17, 2012 2:20 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
@ Vitaminx
Agree with your assessment of what’s needed to succeed…
Think #1 Priority is to get a ROLB!!! CM3 was doubled, chipped, even triple teamed at times… We seriously need a boost from the other side!! Defense needs a big move this off season even if only for morale!! Could there be a FA that TT might set his sights on?
Drafting 28th ~ Is there a OLB that could really make a difference out there? I haven’t researched the Draft yet… Hope our personnel department is going full bore!!
#2. DRAFT Defensive Line AGAIN!!
#3. Draft OL again…
#4. RB
#5. CB
#6. S
#7. TE AGAIN…
Can’t wait to get into the Combine, FA, & Draft… Need to start researching… What are the best sights for that? I lost all my bookmarks when my wife bought me this new laptop!! LOL
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by Bird Dog Uni on Jan 17, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Re Draft
There are a few respected sights for draft evaluations and player info. National football post has alot of good info and evaluations on it, and CBS sports is the same type of mold.
I'm not as familiar with it as some here are, but,
I’m guessing that SB Nation’s own Mocking the Draft is a pretty reliable site for that, as well.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
agreed RB is not a significant need
especially with Green presumably coming back next year
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Sorry Chief ~ But, I for one am tired of having barely serviceable RB's...
Grant is probably gone, Starks is serviceable…
Green may come back from knee injury & “MAY” be serviceable…
Saine hasn’t shown me anything special… I know he’s a rookie and could really come on next year once he understands the offense thoroughly… But, the carries I saw this year didn’t impress me much…
Just off the top of my head… I’d rather get Matt Forte through FA…. This accomplishes two goals immediately… It takes almost the Bears whole offense away… & Improves our Running game 5 fold!!! Seems like a no-brainer to me!!
We’ve kidded ourselves for years that we don’t need a high caliber RB… I think this year just proved how wrong we were!!! Last year Starks took people by surprise at the perfect time… & I like Starks… Just wish we really had a running game…
Green may really come back from injury and develop… But, wouldn’t it be nice to have a back that can do some real damage and if or when AR has an off game, he has someone to rely on???
Forte would immediately make our offense even more dominating than it is now… I don’t think our fan base realizes just how important a running game is!!! AR is my hero too… and torching defenses with play action is my favorite thing… I just think it’d be a lot easier if we had a real running game…
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by Bird Dog Uni on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
... And you expect an elite guy to be available in the 4th or 5th round?!
Starks has the talent. It’s our system that makes RBs look average. We are a passing team.
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Interesting article from Andrew Brandt
In the ARTICLE, he talks about his feelings on what the Packers will do about Grant, Finley, and Flynn. Doesn’t sound like he thinks the Packers will go the sign and trade route. Its against some tough to enforce rules of the league but as he states, the Packers are not usually ones to test the rules.
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Hey TR ~ I read another article (not sure where... NFL.Com I think?) That was expecting us to Tag & Trade Flynn...
I just can’t get my head around the fact that we’ve developed Flynn for 3 years… & might not get anything but a comp pick for him… I really wonder if TT can let that go either? The best thing for Flynn would be to let him walk… The best for the Pack would be if we could tag & trade for a 1st Round Pick!
We could use one first on Defense & the Other on Offense!! Maybe it’s just wishful thinking… But, sure would love to have more AMMO come draft day!!!
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by Bird Dog Uni on Jan 17, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah..
I was hoping we could go the Matt Hasselbeck route with him, we were able to trade him to trade up much higher in the draft all the way up to #10 where we took…. Jamal Reynolds. Oh, and Bhawoh Jue. Maybe not the best haul, but I’m sure Thompson would do a lot better with that in this draft, which is pretty loaded on both sides of the ball.
Try seeing it this way. Brent.
I just can’t get my head around the fact that we’ve developed Flynn for 3 years… & might not get anything but a comp pick for him
It’s a business. It’s the nature of today’s beast in the NFL; at least, it is when management is good enough to keep coming up with more good players than they can use.
There’s only one Franchise tag, and it can’t be used on everybody who’s good enough to be a possibility for it.
When we didn’t trade him before this past season, it likely had something to do with not finding a potential trade partner willing to pony up enough more than we’ll get for a comp pick to to cancel out his then-perceived value as a packup to Rodgers if A-Rod were to get hurt and miss time this season.
Now, he is going to be a free agent, and we have starters who are more worthy of consideration for the franchise tag.
That’s where we’re at and we have to just go forward from here.
Again, it’s just the nature of the beast in the business these days.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
I hope TT tries to do something similar to what he did in the 2009 draft
getting a 3-4 lineman and a pass rusher. Two biggest needs on the team right there (although the draft picks aren’t nearly as high as they were that year coming off a 6-10 season, so maybe just one of the two would suffice)
after that, maybe bring in another O-lineman in the 2/3/4 round range to get more depth there, assuming Clifton is gone and Sherrod recovers in time to compete with Newhouse for the LT spot.
still, not many holes on the Packers’ roster, they’re still arguably in as good or better a position personnel-wise going forward than any team in the NFL
football does not build character, it reveals character.
After all, they're not Mike Smith and the Falcons, haha.
I don’t think they’re going to change their philosophy based on one game.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
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