Should The Packers Keep Jermichael Finley?
by Brandon on Jan 20, 2012 7:02 AM CST
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Packersnews.com | Green Bay Packers | Insiders Blog " Agent: Packers interested in signing Finley to long-term deal. Green Bay Packers TE Jermichael Finley dropped more passes than I care to remember during the regular season and their playoff loss. He'll be a free agent, and it will take a pretty good contract offer to keep him in Green Bay. Since they hadn't already signed him to an extension, I had been thinking that they might be prepared to let him walk. After signing new three-year contracts with James Jones and Jordy Nelson, they've already spent a lot of money on their receivers.
The Press-Gazette estimated that the franchise tag for a tight end will be around $5.5 million. If Camp Finley believes he's more of a wide receiver than a tight end (which is a pretty good argument), it's estimated that the wide receiver franchise tag will be about $9.5 million. Split the difference, and it's likely he'll ask for $7.5 million per season. That annual amount is about as much as Aaron Rodgers's base salary for next season. That seems like a lot of money for a guy who's only had one full season without injury. He's not as good as other young tight ends like Rob Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham, but neither of them will be available in free agency. Finley could command such a big contract because he's young, already talented, and he's got room to improve.
The only good news is that it's possible he'd accept a shorter deal, maybe three years, because he's so young that he could cash in again with another free agent pay day in his late 20s.
On the other hand, his combination of size and speed cause match-up problems for any defense. The Giants told their defense to "Play physical football and beat the hell out of number 88." Anyone that draws the most attention from the opponent's defense is probably a good guy to keep around.
I'm on the fence here. The Packers should keep their good, young players. On the other hand, he'll be expensive and there were four other tight ends on the roster last season. None of them are as good, but they'd have options.
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Wells?
I like Finley, but is frustrated with his performance. I’m more worried about losing Wells.
by tmaxxptm on Jan 20, 2012 7:57 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
With any luck, his less-than-stellar performance during the season and the possibility of a franchise tag will bring the Packers something of a discount. Like James Jones, he’s more potential than production, and can be paid accordingly.
$6.5M/yr initially on a three year deal, maybe? I think Ted would take that.
I voted yes, but only for a "reasonable" salary
Finley is not an elite TE…yet. He does have the size, physicality (is that a really a word) and potential to be an elite TE. My (our?) only real issue with him is his inability to catch the football on a consistent basis. When he catchs it, he’s a terror, when he’s not…not so much.
I don’t know what his issue is…concentration, bad hands, technique…that’s for the coaching staff to figure out. I’d love to keep him, but I’ll trust the coaches to figure out if his problem is fixable.
Absolutely!
Without question you bring him back. Sign him to a good contract that offers incentives. 6M base w/ ability to earn up to 1.5 or 2M more if he plays like a top 3 TE. He has a huge impact on the Packers offense and on the DC that have to game plan for him! His presence gives Jennings and Nelson more freedom. He has never had any problems catching the ball. I know it was a frustrating season for him and Packer fans alike, but he’s too talented and too young to let go and become a STAR somewhere else!
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catching the ball?
“Never had problems catching the ball”? You watching the same StoneHands Jr. Finley that I’ve been watching all season? Mr. BallDropper YOTTO himself catches one drops 2. Sure he’s had huge games and when he’s good he’s solid, but those are stretching into fewer and farther between streaks. If they get him on the cheap then by all means keep him. We have 5 TE’s waiting behind him that are hungry enough to NOT drop the f’n ball.
He's saying the previous years
When healthy, Finley had no problem catching the ball in his previous seasons. It was just this season, in his first full year, that he had any trouble catching the ball. Remember that he had knee surgery just over a year ago, and it typically takes at least a year for everything to be right. Maybe he was dropping more passes because he was thinking of protecting his knee when he got hit?
The fact is that Finley has had very reliable hands in his previous seasons, which makes this season of drops seem like a fluke.
The balls he has dropped had nothing to do with his HANDS
I look forward to another season of lame ass excuses for his drops
It’s his head,it’s his knee,it’s is age,it’s his diet,etc,etc,etc,
If he has become a mental case worrying about injury in past,now,future,all the more reason to drop him like a pass to him.
Come on man
He has reliable hands, everyone on the team will tell you that. His drops this year were NOT because of unreliable catching hands. It could have been a concentration issue, him trying to make a play before catching the ball. It could have been a confidence issue when he started dropping balls. Or it could have been something else.
Our receiving corps talks about making a play when you catch the ball, partly due to the number of balls going their way being limited. If you watch our games, most of the drops are because they are taking their eyes off of the ball in order to start looking around to see how to make a big play. That’s relatively easy to correct.
I think he got himself so hyped to blow up this season that he was just thinking about “what amazing crap am I going to do after I catch this to make more money” rather than focusing on catching the ball. If you notice, the hardest catches he usually made, it was the easy ones that he seemed to drop. That is a sign of a concentration issue.
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Yeah... it's a concentration issue, pretty easy to see.
Good thing is… that is correctable.
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
If it's only a concentration problem and is so easily fixed
then why hasn’t it been fixed as we watched it over and over and over.Unless you mean it’ll take ANOTHER season to fix,and then what,ANOTHER season to fix.What if he gets his money and it still isn’t easily fixed.I don’t mind paying players but they got to earn it and getting double teamed probably half the amount many convince themselves of isn’t earning it.For the money he wants…he shouldn’t drop shit.
You love being dramatic, huh? It’s pretty clearly a confidence issue, imo. You just don’t go from having really good hands and rarely ever dropping a pass to dropping one every game.
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by packallday555 on Jan 20, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
But see you are acting like this issue has been around his entire career. This was an isolated thing that happened THIS year. Just like a RB who fumbles can be fixed (see Tiki, Ahman, and AP) a WR with the dropsies can be fixed too. Not sure I think its confidence as much as I think its concentration but either way, it can be fixed.
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Youve only watched it for THIS season
In his previous seasons, Finley was the owner of some of the most reliable hands on the team. It was just THIS season that he had some drops. You’re way overreacting to how the season ended.
No question you keep him..
He is a guy other teams have to game plan for. He is only 24. I’d really hate to see him go to the Vikings or Bears.
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Doubt he’d go to the Vikings, they have a good young TE they are grooming in now and have WAY too many other big needs to worry about Finley. The bears are a different story…who knows what they are going to do with all the changes there. heck they can’t even get to terms with their RB though so I have a hard time believing they are going to pony up for Finley.
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depends on the new GM and OC..
Chances are that any new OC will value a pass catching TE a lot higher than Martz did.
Many fans here are bitter about them letting Olson go, and the Bears have a ton of cap room.
I’d just hate to see him in Chicago..
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Keep him...
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by RaY210 on Jan 20, 2012 8:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't mind either way... TT will only sign him to a Franchise Friendly Deal...
I’m more excited about the fact that they don’t want to TAG him… : )
I’m hoping they use the TAG on Matty Flynn… : ) I have a feeling, (Or A HOPE! : ) That TT will Tag and Trade Matt for at least another 1st Round Pick this year!
Hoping Mike Shannahan & Daniel Snyder fell in love with the Tape of Matt during the Lions game and we end up with their #6 pick!!!
That would give us a chance to grab a Stud OLB prospect or Trent Richardson!!!
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P.S. ~ I still don't understand why most people on this sight don't want a PREMIER RB?
We have “SETTLED” for barely serviceable RB’s for years… & I’m so sick of it I could PUKE!!! Hey… I’m an old QB… (Turned 50 on Thanksgiving Day! : ) I loved to throw the ball… I loved Play Action… I also GOT OFF on seeing my backs tear up a “D!!!” Believe me… You think our play action game is good now… Imagine if we have a back that is actually a threat!!!
COME ON MAN… Jump on board the RB BAND WAGON!!! Yes… It is a QB driven league… WE HAVE THE BEST QB in the game today… Give him a weapon in the Backfield so he doesn’t feel as though the weight of each game, season, Fan’s HOPE REST ON HIS SHOULDERS ALONE!!!
It would seriously help our O LINE TOO!!! Attacking a defense with a “GOOD RUNNING GAME” makes the play action so much more effective and easier for the line!!!
LET’s get back to NFC NORTH FB!!!
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Barely servicable?
Actually, I won’t justify you with a response. This has been discussed to no end and your illogical use of caps, random punctuation, and poor spelling make me sad.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
by msc32887 on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
BUT you did respond... And all you could come up with was an English Teacher Scolding...
Talk FB… Leave your English Lessons to someone who cares… Just because you’re satisfied with a SUB PAR running game doesn’t mean we all are!!
Are you telling me that Matt Forte or Trent Richardson wouldn’t improve our offense immensely?
Well, in MHO, it would! Sorry if you don’t see it the same way! We are both on the same side… Just want our team to improve, and if we disagree on how to do it… I’m sorry!!
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Ok, I'll bite and talk football.
OF courSe we could use FORTe or RICKARDSON, what team wld not like to have them, rite? AT the Moment, though, the PACKERS running game is de$igned to set up da pass, and that it doeS very good. But with the “PAY STRUCTURE” and “roster” of our team at the momment, this is a THROWING THE BALL first offense. I wld <3 to have a run Game, but u dunt find BATMAN (aka ahman green LOL) evvry day!!!
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
by msc32887 on Jan 20, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
I would say..
it’s not that most people don’t want one, they just don’t value as highly as you do.
Semantics maybe, but if you can win a Super Bowl with Jackson and Starks, I guess you can do it with a pedestian running game.
I agree, a plus running game would help, I just think defensive improvement should happen before any upgrade at running back..
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I pictured you typing your post in the manner of this man.
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by mittsabishy on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That's awesome. +1 for you, sir.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Please stop bringing this up!
We are a passing team. Starks is talented. We are not going to spend unnecessary money on a guy like Forte. Just stop.
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 20, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Okay
Ill give you your amazing star RB. Who are you gonna take away in order to pay him and keep him? Say goodby to at least two star to very good players on offense. Say goodby to Jordy Nelson and Jermichael Finley for your star RB. We are in a salary cap system, no way you can have star players everywhere on offense and have a star defense.
I would love to have a premier RB, but they just don’t grow on trees and take a 3 million dollar salary.
by Shoes31 on Jan 20, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Give me Matt Forte, you can have Finley, Grant, and Driver...
Cap space solved. Grant is gone anyway. Driver while I love him, think he’s been the ultimate Packer, someone once said, “It’s better to get rid of a player one year too early, than one year too late.”
I would also argue that Forte creates as many match up nightmares as Finley, but, Forte can touch the ball 25 times a game. Finley may have 12 touches, but, he’ll only hold on to 6 or 8 of them.
Just my opinion.
Oh, and the way the Bears have treated Forte, I think he’d be more than willing to come to a team he could win a SB with & stick it to the Bears. Forte is 25 years old and has been the entire Bears offense this year, love it anytime we can stick it to Da BEARS!!! lol
I’m confident that TT will do whatever is Best/Cheapest for the Packers. Everyone try to have a great weekend!
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What teams have won a Super Bowl in the last decade
with a premier RB?
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This year there is a 50/50 chance so to speak.
Rice for Baltimore if they win. Gore for SF if they win. Giants have a good running game if no real Premier back. Patriots don’t have a premier back, so if they win, I guess I’m out of arguments, because the Pats don’t have a defense either!
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If those teams win, it's due to their defense, not the premeire back
Giants have a good running game
The Giants were last in rushing yards & last in yards per rushing attempt.
13.
by Wiedmann on Jan 20, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How many premier RBs are there? You act like there is one just sitting there for the taking or something. You have someone in mind?
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TR ~ Would love to have Matt Forte!
For all the above reasons. He’s an excellent runner. Our screen game could be as good as the ‘old days. He’s an excellent receiver out of the backfield or split out.
He’s a proven every down back, and like I said, it instantly puts the Bears in the cellar.
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Why would that put the Bears in the cellar?
If it’s like you said earlier, this would give the Bears Grant, Finley and Driver. If that’s the case I don’t think the Bears would be last. This would actually give the Bears multiple threats in the passing game. Opposing teams couldn’t worry mainly about the run and would have to deal with stopping the pass. This would allow Grant to do a good enough job running when needed. We keep talking about what a nightmare Finley is to plan against, now the Bears have that.
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You miss understand me sir.
Matt Forte is a FA. If the Bears don’t sign him to a long term deal, I wish we would.
I’m not saying trade those 3 to the Bears. I’m saying since Finley is a FA, let him walk. Grant is a FA, let him walk. DD is the one I’d miss the most… But, it would clear enough cap space to sign Forte.
Does that make more sense now?
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OK
I was going by your early post where you said:
Give me Matt Forte, you can have Finley, Grant, and Driver
Misunderstood, sorry.
Yes, that makes more sense. I don’t agree, but I see what you’re saying. I’d rather have the other 3 than Forte. Our offense can beat anyone now. The defense is what needs the main changes. If we lose those 3 I’d much rather see them bringing in someone that can rush the passer, either a DE or OLB.
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@ Zundar ~ I'm expecting TT to use our 1st Round Draft Pick to get an OLB.
If a one is available & merits taking. I just meant we’re probably losing Grant & DD anyway. With Finley dropping balls and probably wanting more money than TT wants to pay, we might as well pick up Forte.
Believe me when I say, that TT gets paid to make those decisions. I’m just speculating like everyone else. I could be very wrong, and TT isn’t known for going after FA, so, TT going after Forte is a pipe dream, yet I think it’s doable if he wanted to go that route!
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The word on the street is that the Redskins are not high on Flynn
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Dominating your opposition physically is great and all, but confounding them mentally is sooo much more fun.
2-15-DEN 44(14:36) (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 47 for 3 yards (N.Suh). FUMBLES (N.Suh), RECOVERED by DET-N.Suh at DEN 47. N.Suh to DEN 47 for no gain (K.Moreno). FUMBLES (K.Moreno), recovered by DET-C.Houston at DEN 47. C.Houston to DEN 47 for no gain (O.Franklin). Denver challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 49 for 5 yards (S.Tulloch).
Not what I heard
Mel Kiper is reporting that, but numerous other sources say Shanahan likes Flynn. They have a somewhat similar system to ours offensively, which makes Flynn an even more attractive target.
by Shoes31 on Jan 21, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
hmm…I don’t think he wants to lump himself in as a WR and go that route. If he’s a WR, he’s put up a series of pretty shitty seasons for someone who wants to be paid like and elite WR. 700 yards is pretty mediocre in terms of WRs but above average in terms of a TE. I understand his argument of why he should be but opening up that door only makes him look worse IMO.
That said, I still want him around for a fair upper tier TE wage. If he wants starting WR money he better start playing like an great WR.
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by TrevorR on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I'd love to keep him as well for the right price.
I hate his attitude and I hope he realizes that his value decreased dramatically after missing a full season then most likely led the league in drops the year after (I mean, how couldn’t he have?). I dunno, I’m pretty frustrated over what’s going on with SOPA/PIPA/Megaupload right now that it’s hard to focus on crap like this.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
someone was saying in another thread that it could be around 20 mil if clifton and driver retire and they dont sign any more of our free agents. idk if thats accurate
by Tracker J Dunn on Jan 21, 2012 3:08 AM CST up reply actions
Undecided
Finley needs a mentor along the lines of Donald Driver or Charles Woodson. Much of Woodson’s success comes from what he does off the field…film study, individual conditioning and maturity. I think it’s safe to say that Woodson now is not the same Charles Woodson in his 3rd/4th years with the Raiders.
Keeping Donald Driver and asking him to be that mentor for Finley might be a wise move. I know they play different positions but I get the impression someone on the roster needs to take Finley under his wing and give him an attitude adjustment. Sometimes, that works better coming from a teammate instead of a coach.
Franchise Finley and let him know his 2012 season will go a long way in determining his future in Green Bay!
by Slim11 on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Much of Woodson’s success comes from what he does off the field…film study, individual conditioning and maturity.
How do you know Finley isn’t doing the same stuff? From what I hear, he is an extremely hard worker.
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
True, McCarthy has said Finley is a very hard worker,
But clearly something is wrong. I remember Finley being extremely reliable towards the end of 09, especially the last two games at Arizona, catching everything but not any more.
The talent is definitely there, but he needs to focus a bit more.
I'm thinking that it may be confidence.
I know, seems like he has it in abundance, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s overthinking while on the field.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
by msc32887 on Jan 20, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Nah, that wasn't sarcastic.
But it was hard to write that in a way that didn’t seem so. All appearances point towards him having excessive confidence. But drops can come from a lack of focus/confidence, and if he’s unsure of himself then that may explain what looked like a lack of concentration or him being a step slow in reacting to the ball coming, overthinking/second guessing himself. This is just conjecture, though.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Yes on the condition that as mentioned above the contract is right because none of the teams within the division have someone who can cover him as 6 of his 8 touchdowns came within the division.
by Land of 10,000 Lakes Packer Fan on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 AM CST reply actions
sign
and trade for ROLB or top tier DE.
We won a SB without Finley.
We lost when our defense sucked.
Period.
The end.
by Acme on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I want Finley, but I’d trade him for an elite pass rusher.
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by TrevorR on Jan 20, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I say yes
If we are worried about the cap, why not keep Finley and let Driver ride off into the sunset and save there? If it is a Finley or Driver scenario, you got to take Finley.
Jones got over the drops he had last year, which makes me confident our coaches can work with Finley to do the same. The guy has the talent to become a top 3 TE, and hopefully with some motivation he’ll correct the drops.
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by Andrew Clark on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Well put
Hadn’t thought about it that way
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Can Finley rush the passer? No
Ergo, ambivalent
Whatever you want Ted. Just fix the pass rush
by Big10freak on Jan 20, 2012 11:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions
What? That's short sighted, illogical, and please check up the definition of ambivilence.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Haha, fail. Ambivalence.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Um, I have mixed feelings about it since I am focused on the defense Neither strong yes nor strong nay
What am I missing?
What does our pass rush have to do with Finley?
I doubt that TT would go after a marquee free agent pass rusher, and if he wants to there are other options to free up cap room (DD, others). Yes, we have a need for a pass rushing DE/OLB, but what does resigning Finley have to do with it?
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
for 5mill or less
is where I would be on him. We won the super bowl without him and have talented TEs in the waiting (likely not as talented as him). He’s a great player, but this season, he was probably below average. He may have drawn numerous double coverages, but when you drop as many easy catches as he did, what’s the point?
I’d rather see any contract larger than 5mill be spent on the defense or offensive line
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by uofmike on Jan 20, 2012 12:06 PM CST via Android app reply actions
he was probably below average. He may have drawn numerous double coverages, but when you drop as many easy catches as he did, what’s the point?
As a WR his stats were average… as a TE his stats were good.
I agree with the 5mil range though. Maybe structure it where the money increases as the years go by and set incentives in there.
by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 20, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Among TEs -
- in targets
- in catches (combo of drops and tough catches)
- in yards (more ypc than many others, 22 yds from being #7)
- in TDs (this is a very important stat…)
As a wide receiver he had a terrible season, as a TE, hes still top 5-7 in my book with a lot of potential to be more if he can fix his concentration issues.
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no doubt he could be great
however this was his first season where he didn’t ager injured and it wasn’t exactly impressive. He also has had a few ego/opening his mouth issues in the past
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by uofmike on Jan 21, 2012 3:17 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
get, not ager
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by uofmike on Jan 21, 2012 3:18 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
grr…what happened to my post. I guess I should have previewed it. I had actual rankings at the beginning and it turned it into a numbered list. sigh.
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Here's a thought
I’m on the fence about Fins too… Matchup nightmare, but has had Stone Hands Syndrome this year. You guys probably know more about this stuff than I do, so here it is; sign Finely for 4 years for around 23 mil, with the money starting slow, 4 and 5 mil the first two years, then 7 the 3rd year and 7 the final year. If he does well, we reward him by not cutting him or trading him, and vice versa. Can that be done?
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by P-Townfan on Jan 20, 2012 12:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Too much money
I’d agree with the general idea of a contract like that, but it’s too much. We can get him for less than that.
13.
He does...
He works on his physical conditioning. Following the 2010 season, much was made of his boxing workouts. I also read of the efforts he made in rehabilitating the knee injury which put him on IR in 2010. I haven’t read anything indicating how hard he works in film study or classroom sessions.
Remember, Finley came out of college early. If memory serves correctly, he left Texas following his sophomore season. That’s why I question his maturity.
Is this guy really that bad?
It seems crazy to me that one year people are talking about how he might be one of the best tight ends in the game, then the next year the team doesn’t know whether or not they even want him around.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
CUT RY7AN GRANT!
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
OMG VIC SO'OTO!!!!!!
WHY ISN’T HE STARTING?
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by Wiedmann on Jan 21, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
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