Crunching Some Ugly Numbers For Packers CB Tramon Williams

by Brandon on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 AM CST in Green Bay Packers Analysis

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Rob Demovsky How different was Tramon Williams in 2011? Gave up completions 56.5%, 5 TDs, 1,120 yards. 2010: 43.5%, 3TDs, 533 yards.
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Wow. I posted some solid numbers for Green Bay Packers CB Tramon Williams last week, but allowing twice the yards in fewer games demands a second look.

Previously I gave him some slack because there was a lot of confusion in the secondary for much of the season. One example that came to mind was Christian Ponder's 72 yard completion on the first play of the game. Williams appeared to be playing zone, and let Michael Jenkins run right down the sideline, but no deep safety came to pick him up. Was that Williams or Charlie Peprah who blew the coverage?

Also, a shoulder injury suffered during the opener against the Saints might have nagged him all season.

While the stats are ugly, he'll be better once his shoulder heals and Nick Collins returns. I'm not sure about Collins's return, but an upgrade over Peprah and more experience for Morgan Burnett (who still has the only turnover surrendered by the Giants in three postseason games) would help him too. The Packers should leave him in the same role next season, and they should see better results.

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Just watched some Senor Bowl practice

I’ll take Kendall Reyes,Vinny Curry and Donnie Fletcher,then easily watch the defense jump to top 5…

by Tarynfor12 on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

Reyes

Is a good third round prospect. He’s not a pass rusher, but a serious run stuffer. If you want a 3rd round prospect that can do both with a little more development, look at Derek Wolfe.

by Shoes31 on Jan 24, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions

Senor Bowl.

Is he married to Senora Bowl?

by nvar21 on Jan 24, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Father of Senorita Bowl

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 AM CST up reply actions

I'll admit that he's played worse this year.

But how bad he looked was exacerbated by the lack of a pass rush and the loss of Collins. I mean, even the best DB’s can’t cover forever. Also, he was playing off a lot more, perhaps due to a scheme change to help compensate for the loss of Collins covering the deep ball, as Peprah seems to always be a bit slow in getting to where he needs to be.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 PM CST reply actions

Woodson at safety.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM CST reply actions

Need a capable #2 corner opposite Tramon for that to happen.

by mike_o on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions

Yep.

Sam has regressed this year and I don’t trust anyone else to be a reliable number 2. After addressing the pass rush issue, I’m sure that will be the next thing focused on in the draft.

On Wisconsin!

by Celtin on Jan 24, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions

Shields or Bush at corner is at worst a wash w/ Peprah at safety.

A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions

That's only assuming Collins' career is over.

Shields ~~or Bush~~ at corner is at worst a wash w/ Peprah at safety.

13.

"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."

by Wiedmann on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Shields

When he comes in and plays during nickle situations, Shields goes outside. It’s not like Wood is locking people down on the outside, he is working in the slot most of the time. Shields is basically our #2 corner already.

by Shoes31 on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions

It's always about d-line pressure on QB

These numbers do’t surprise me, given the non existent line pressure and Collins going down.

by Paul Haugen on Jan 24, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions

IT WASNT HIS FAULT

If you play good bump and run coverage one year, then go into this strange shell the next where you are typically playing 8-12 behind the line of scrimmage, you’re going to give up a shit ton of yards. it’s going to happen. matter of fact. we need to get more press man coverage, or at least look like it.

we gave up too many easy pitch and catches this year simply becuase our guys were 8-12 yards deep. it was pathetic.

by Nels Winkler on Jan 24, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions

"Confusion in the secondary"

a problem and defensive sickness that remained until the bitter ending.
It is still hard to fathom how weak and lame this defense got with the loss of just two players, especially after staying strong with many more injuries last year.

by docg on Jan 24, 2012 2:42 PM CST reply actions

Our Secondary is hurting....

Chuck isnt getting younger, Collins is still a ?, Tramon and Sam looked worse than rookies, and Charlie Peprah made me miss Atari Bigby… What a year for the pass D….

Oh and our pass rush was abysmal, much of the reason the secondary was gashed so frequently….. We have a big offseason coming up, and i think we need to make a few FA signings.

That fealt good, out.

aaaaaaaaahh, I gotta go!!

by b3nihana on Jan 24, 2012 3:07 PM CST reply actions

Atari wouldn't have helped us this year.

Everything else I agree with.

On Wisconsin!

by Celtin on Jan 24, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions

The Atari comment was sarcasm, i miss him zero

aaaaaaaaahh, I gotta go!!

by b3nihana on Jan 24, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions

Ahhh I understand.

Sarcasm is necessary after talking about this defense this year. And since you have a Brewers related sig, what do you think of Prince Fielder going to the Tigers?

On Wisconsin!

by Celtin on Jan 24, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions