Packers TE Coach Ben McAdoo Could Be Promoted

by Brandon on Jan 26, 2012 10:00 AM CST in Green Bay Packers News

McCarthy's staff mostly intact in Hawaii - JSOnline. With the Green Bay Packers coaching staff in Honolulu for the 2012 Pro Bowl, it would seem that every coach except new Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin will return next season. It's assumed that QB coach Tom Clements would be promoted to offensive coordinator, but Tom Silverstein mentions Ben McAdoo as a "fast-riser" on the staff who didn't make the trip because of a personal matter.

So who is Ben McAdoo? The 35 year old tight ends coach has been with the team since 2006. He was a college coach in Pittsburgh (which is probably where Mike McCarthy heard about him) and he's followed McCarthy around since 2004.

He's certainly had some success with the Packers. He couldn't turn Bubba Franks's decline around (maybe an impossible task) but he helped Donald Lee become a quality receiver by 2007. Before that, Lee was thought of only as a blocker. And he's helped Jermichael Finley become a dangerous receiver.

McAdoo might be well so well regarded that he'd could be named the Packers offensive coordinator, but it's more likely that he'd take over as QB coach for Clements. However, Philbin could believe that McAdoo would make a great offensive coordinator, though former Packers head coach Mike Sherman appears to be the leading candidate. Philbin was originally hired by Sherman, and was kept on after McCarthy was hired in 2006.

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And he’s helped Jermichael Finley become a dangerous receiver.

If by “dangerous receiver” you mean can’t catch the football and costs his team on a regular basis, I’m in total agreement.

by leftisbetter on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 AM CST reply actions

Pretty sure that's not what he meant.

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by Wiedmann on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions

Fail

by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 26, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

He's someone the other team always have to account for

He’s got bad hands, and some games he’s invisible, but he’s also a matchup nightmare and the 5th best TE last season according to Football Outsiders.

I understand the frustration with him. And I have reservations about re-signing him. But the offense would take a step back without him.

by Brandon on Jan 26, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions

I don’t even know if I’d say he has bad hands.

Jermichael Finley had the worst drop rate with 13 in 103, or 12.62%. He didn’t drop any of 25 last season, and in his first three seasons he dropped 7 of 117, or 6%.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/the-rodgers-file-c63ua6p-138019428.html

Drops have never been a problem for Finley before this season. I still think it was a confidence thing. Whether it was due to himself putting pressure on himself because of the contract year, the whole year of the takeover thing, or because we spread the ball around much more then his time in 2010, who really knows.

Like you said, teams have to game plan for him and that alone makes him valuable.

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by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

^THIS^

He has one season of the dropsies and everyone suddenly things its a pandemic that has existed for years. Look I’ve been tough on him this year because I have higher expectations BUT the over reactions now are getting so ridiculous that I’ve switched sides on him! haha

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by TrevorR on Jan 26, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions

^NOT THIS^

I think a lot of people look at Finley and judge him on what he’s capable of rather than what he’s actually done. When you look at the top TE’s around the league, Finley just hasn’t shown the consistency and concentration needed to get to that next level. But aren’t those the things a good coach would help correct? So if he’s not correcting them, wouldn’t it seem a little crazy to promote said coach to lead the entire offense?

by leftisbetter on Jan 28, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions

I think a lot of people judge Finley on his drops rather than other things he's actually done.

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by Wiedmann on Jan 28, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions

I think a lot of people

just can’t (or wom’t?) see the things Finley does/has done that aren’t reflected in stats.

Sure is a relief to know that Mr. Thompson and Mr. McCarthy see those things.

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by NorthStarr on Jan 28, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions

Nothing like judging a guy by ONE season!

You do know that Finley has never had trouble w/ drops prior to this year don’t you? In 4 games the prior year he didn’t have a SINGLE drop! Yet your saying that he can’t concentrate due to that ONE season. Look at his previous season… He was flat dominant in 4 games before injuring his knee. He was on his way to a 1200 yd, 85 rec season. Too bad if you were coach we would never see him do that in GB!

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by Strohman on Jan 28, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions

Isn't This About the Coach?

The point isn’t whether Finley has talent or whether he’s been better in the past; the gist of what I’m saying is that he was in a rut all season and McAdoo, who is being suggested as a viable candidate for OC, was unable to make any progress in getting Finley out of it. Now, imagine that instead of one guy, McAdoo has the whole offense before him: if he can’t correct some mental lapses in one player, how in the world is he going to bolster the entire offense, which has a history of inconsistency in the line, receiver, and running back areas? Wouldn’t you rather see someone with a little better proven track record? Just because he’s on the current staff, should he get a free pass to move up? Are you saying there isn’t ANYONE else out there who could lead our offense?

by leftisbetter on Jan 28, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions

You didn't even mention McAdoo by name.

Only person you talked about in your post was Finley, hence my response… When the entire offseason was wiped out, it severely limits the coachs ability to work w/ the player. Kinda like last offseason… What about how McAdoo was instumental in making Finley one of the most dangerous TE’s in the NFL. Doesn’t he get credit for that? Also, the fact that Finley had a case of the drops this year isn’t shouldn’t be an indictment of the coach, as much as the player. Not saying it wasn’t partly his responsibility to correct, but the coach isn’t on the field and I’m sure they spoke at length about it and drilled it in practice.’

Personally I think Clement is the better choice, but its short-sighted to rule out McAdoo just cuz Finley had the drops!

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by Strohman on Jan 28, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

You think coaching an entire offense is the same skillset as getting a TE to not drop the ball. This is like the people who just figure that since someone was a good OC, they have to be a good HC. Or the person that feels that since they are a great salesman that they’ll be a great sales manager. Totally different skillsets involved in the jobs.

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by TrevorR on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions