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Who Should Be The Packers Left Tackle In 2012?

Marshall Newhouse allowed 11.5 sacks in reg season. Last yr Bulaga allowed 11. This year, just 2. Can MN make the same jump? #Packers grade
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I'm not sure where 11.5 sacks rank among the worst in the NFL, but Green Bay Packers LT Marshall Newhouse is certainly among the leaders. Does that mean he shouldn't be considered the starter in 2012?

LT Chad Clifton has had a long career, but he's been wearing down over the past few seasons and he's one of the oldest starters in the NFL. The Packers will look back at an injury plagued season, and remember that he couldn't even play the entire game during their playoff loss. He's scheduled to make $5.25 million next season, and I can't see it happening. It looks like the end of the line.

The good news for OT Derek Sherrod is that broken bones can heal. Unfortunately, his injury against the Chiefs was still severe. It's a long offseason, but we'll have to see how he's doing in August. Even if he can't play left tackle, he could be a candidate for the right side, and Bryan Bulaga could shift over.

That said, I'm thinking that Newhouse is good enough to be the starter next season. His problem is consistency. He wasn't allowing one sack per game. He was either giving up three sacks or zero. So if he can avoid the horrible games, he's got the potential to be a lot better next season. Plus, Newhouse proved to Aaron Rodgers that he can play. Rodgers said "Starting the season out, I didn't look at Marshall the way I look at him now. I look at him now as a guy who really has a strong, legitimate chance to be the left tackle of the future."

Also, I just watched the Giants go to the Super Bowl with two tackles that got destroyed by the 49ers, and last season I saw the Steelers make it there with two unwanted veteran tackles. It doesn't seem like you need to have a great set of tackles to succeed in the NFL. Of course it doesn't hurt, but Rodgers has such a quick release and makes such quick decisions that he doesn't need his tackles to be perfect. With all the problems on defense that need to be addressed, I'm thinking Newhouse is good enough and the Packers can use the cap savings from Clifton to re-sign Scott Wells and Jermichael Finley.

Poll
Name the Packers starting left tackle in 2012?
Clifton
81 votes
Newhouse
647 votes
Bulaga
351 votes
Sherrod
160 votes

1239 votes | Poll has closed

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He'll get his shot...

If not this year, then next. Once healthy and gets a full offseason he’ll get his shot at the job. Like for it to be this offseason, but that seems unlikely.

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by Strohman on Jan 27, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this but I assume it will be Mewhouse at first and Sherrod will be worked in

Also Sherrod will probably wind up being better but he lacks experience. Newhouse should make a leap with experience, but not as much as Bulaga, who was excellent this year, then Sherrod should make that same leap next year.

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 8:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think we should move Bulaga from RT to LT

He is a better run blocker and I think having him on Rodgers’ blind side would make his stats drop. In my opinion it is either Newhouse or Sherrod and hopefully both with be healthy enough to make it a competition during training camp.

by stratefaced on Jan 27, 2012 8:23 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I think having him on Rodgers’ blind side would make his stats drop.

This doesn’t make sense. It’s not about individual stats… it’s about how many sacks are given up. And it would seem logical with Bulaga (our best OT) on the blind side, Rodgers will be more comfortable.

by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 27, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

What I meant was...

…Ah hell I don’t know what I meant. But I do like having consistency along the line so if we could get everything figured out by the first pre-season game that would be awesome.

by stratefaced on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

What tackle position do you think is more important?

In my mind that is the OT on the QBs blindside. I would like consistency too… but I think Bulaga would be better long term at that spot than either of the other two guys.

I just don’t want to see Rodgers getting destroyed by elite pass rushers (like Allen, JPP, and others who normally line up on the right side.) Clay is one of the few pro bowl pass rushers who plays on the left side.

by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 27, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't see Bulaga moving to LT.

He might have been better this year, but Newhouse BADLY needed an offseason to refine his technique and didn’t get it. Bulaga has settled in extremely well at RT and playing next to Sitton, so it doesn’t make alot of sense to move both the OT around when it would require an adjustment from both. If Rodgers has confidence in Newhouse on his blindside, then I think we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Bulaga is also a better run blocker than either Newhouse or Sherrod who both have more of the typical LT traits than Bulaga. Remember how much Bulaga struggled when he first switched sides? You would be doing that to both Bulaga and Newhouse if you did that now.

Bulaga had 11 sacks allowed playing the easier RT spot, Newhouse had similar # of sacks allowed playing the more difficult LT spot for the most part as Bulaga did in his 1st season starting alot of games. I don’t see how you think that makes Bulaga the better LT than Newhouse… Bulaga was at RT and had a very good season, but that doesn’t mean if he switched to LT he would be automatically better than Newhouse or Sherrod. There were also ALOT of scouts who thought Bulaga was a much better prospect as a RT than as a LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 27, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah, I like having Bulaga locking down the right side

Its his spot, hes got it, let him own it.

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by Andrew Clark on Jan 28, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I’ll be fine if they follow that thinking and keep him on the right side.

But my argument for moving him is this: He’s better.

You want your best guy at LT, and Bulaga is a natural.

by Curly Lambeau on Jan 28, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

You don't know he's better at LT.

At RT, no doubt, he’s proven it… But as a LT you simply have no basis to say that other than he’s better at RT. And that is not a good argument, IMO. Being a better RT, does not necessarily make him a better LT. If Bulaga is such a “natural” he wouldn’t have lasted till the 23rd pick. He would have went top 5 like Long and Thomas.

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by Strohman on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't say Top 20 did I?

If he was the “natural” that Curly thinks, he would have been Top 5 (which IS what I said). And Bulaga was never considered Top 5. Top 20 he easily was, Top 5 he Never was… Also what I said is that he hasn’t proven to anyone he can play LT, not that he can’t! Guess you weren’t pay attention to what I was saying or didn’t actually Read it! Guys that are natural LT generally go very early in the draft. As I’ve said REPEATEDLY, Bulaga was thought by most scouts to be more of a “natural” RT, than LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

so Tom Brady will never be as good as Matt Ryan because Tom Brady fell to the 6th round and Ryan was picked top 5?

and Aaron Rodgers will never be as good as Vince Young, because Aaron Rodgers fell to 23 while Young was picked top 5?

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by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

What he is saying

Is that Bulaga fell in part due to concerns about his ability to play LT in the NFL. Similar issue with Rodgers coming from the Cal system. Can or could they become very good to elite players even though there where some concerns, why yes. But various concerns dropped their draft status. Sometimes these concerns are unfounded, or can be corrected.

For example, look at Gabe Carimi. His draft stock dropped due to him being thought of as a RT only type of player.

But that’s not only what he is saying. Why would you take a possible pro bowler and move his position (unless its due to age or declining physical abilities)? You wouldn’t take your pro bowl 3 tech DT and kick him outside to play a 7 tech DE would you?

by Shoes31 on Jan 29, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Bulaga should be moved, I think he's settled in real nice at RT and should stay there

however, using where a guy was drafted as a reason why they can or cannot do something is not a legitimate argument.

And if it was, why would Newhouse or Sherrod be better suited to play LT than Bulaga? They were both drafted later than he was.

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by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

They have the length that team like in LT

Not that is the end all be all of LT play, but it is a highly desireable trait, that usually lends itself to being a successful LT. Bulaga doesn’t have those traits to the degree that Newhouse and Sherrod do. I’m not using his draft status as a negative for Bulaga, simply pointing out that he isn’t/wasn’t thought of as a “natural” LT and was almost universally thought to be a better RT prospect than LT. But you continue to read into it only what you want!

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying I disagree with the sentiment that he's better suited for the right side

however, the argument of “if he was such a natural, he wouldn’t have fallen to the 23rd pick” is still completely invalid. Scouts are constantly wrong about players. Drew Brees was too short to play QB. Tom Brady was too slow, skinny, and weak. Wes Welker was too small and slow. The list goes on.

Also, Newhouse is an inch shorter and his arms are half an inch longer than Bulaga’s, hardly significant differences.

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by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Longer arms and better foot quickness

Are the 2 traits that scouts look for in a “natural” LT. Bulaga has the absolute minimum that scouts look for at 33" arms, Newhouse IIRC had 34 1/2, when the elite “natural” LT have 35 1/2 or 36" that extra 1 1/2 inches is significant. Ht means little… Newhouse (4.6 and 7.4 in shuttle and cone) also is much quicker than Bulaga (4.75 and 7.7). Newhouse came from a small school and never played from a 3 pt stance, which is why he fell to the 5th Rd?

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Newhouse had 34, Bulaga had 33.5.

like I said, a half inch difference.

Also, Joe Thomas (AKA one of the top 2 or 3 LTs in the NFL) ran a 4.88 shuttle and 7.95 cone, slower than both. He also has 33.75 arm length, a negligible difference from either Newhouse or Bulaga.

Again, I’m not disagreeing with you on Bulaga’s best fit, only pointing out that your logic in this case is flawed. Measurables and draft position are not the only things that make a player and determine which position they can play.

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Got a link?

I was searching for that info myself. I seem to remember Newhouse being a good inch more, maybe inch and half. The quickness is another part of being a very good LT prospect. And again I mentioned those traits are not the end all, be all of playing LT. I consider any 1/2 difference between 33-36 to be significant, and definitely an inch is significant.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

search "Marshall Newhouse combine" and "Bryan Bulaga Combine"

the info is on the NFL website, they store it there.

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by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Bulaga's says

33 1/4, not 1/2. So almost a full inch.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

End all, be all

Nobody questioned Thomas or Jake Long as LT prospects. Yet they did question Bulaga as a LT. Like I said, those traits aren’t the end all, be all of playing LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

okay, then we agree on this

Bryan Bulaga’s measurables and draft position are not the reasons why he shouldn’t play LT.

And we also agree that he should still stay on the right side.

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by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I've stated from the start...

yet you continued to argue that my logic is flawed and only seemed to care about measurables.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

the first thing you said was

“If Bulaga is such a "natural" he wouldn’t have lasted till the 23rd pick. He would have went top 5 like Long and Thomas.”

This is what I was arguing against the whole time.

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by sheehan on Jan 29, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Natural =/ measurables...

Long and Thomas were natural LT, even tho they didn’t have measurables. There are/were questions about Bulaga’s ability to play LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Its kinda like Finley.

Alot of TE’s tested better than Finley at the combine. But you can tell by watching Finley play that he is a “natural” athlete. Same goes for Bulaga IMO, in the opposite manner. He looks more like a mauler than a “natural” LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 29, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Look, Stroh, I don’t know the answer to this.

But when I’m talking about him being a natural, I’m talking about what I see when he fluidly slides his feet in pass protection. It’s just… it’s poetry in motion. He just “gets it.” He’s gonna’ be a very good lineman for a very long time. Would you rather we put a guy like that at RT or LT? There’s no wrong answer. I don’t care about arguing with you. I mean, we’re all winners here.

by Curly Lambeau on Jan 30, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't see this fluidity your talking about...

Like I said about Finley, lots of TE tested better, but you could see by watching him that he was an athlete by how he moved. Finley looked like an athlete. I never saw that from Bulaga. And I was trained in college to be a S and C coach and have been around athletes most of my life. I think Bulaga is more of a mauler and a technician than he is fluid. I think he could play LT in the NFL, but I don’t see him being better than Clifton was at his best. I see more of a guy like Backus in Det. A guy who struggles, but gets the job done… Not a Pro Bowler. Not a fluid "natural’ athlete that you want at LT. If thats what you want Newhouse has a better chance of being that type of guy at LT. He has much better feet than Bulaga!

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by Strohman on Jan 30, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he can improve with an offseason. He was only a second year guy this season, right? His struggles probably were to be expected considering the circumstances. McCarthy has always said that guys improve the most in the offseason of year two. Let’s hope this offseason helps him, as well as Shields and Neal.

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by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2012 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

consistency

In addition to individual consistency from Newhouse, the line would benefit from Newhouse being penciled in as the starter. I know Clifton came back at the end, but more or less it was Newhouse at the end of the season. Having the entire group back would be helpful. I wouldn’t complain if there was an upgrade at LG, but Lang’s far from the team’s biggest issue.

by doldham on Jan 27, 2012 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

Lang

I was pretty impressed with his season at LG. He only allowed 2 sacks and was a good run blocker. He did blow it in the playoff loss when he allowed that hit on Rodgers on an inside rush that led to a fumble (and a missed TD pass to Jennings). That bad play was more about bad timing then any sort of problem (every player misses one play from time-to-time).

by Brandon on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially considering that Wells’ return at C is no sure thing, it would be nice to have at least one side of the offensive line return intact from one season to the following.

Consider what happens if Wells leaves in FA and Bulaga moves to left tackle. You’ll have a new center and people in new places at both tackles – only the guards (presumably) will be the same. Continuity across the entire line will be broken.

Now, if Wells remains a Packer and Bulaga stays at RT, four of five slots will be the same – which is much better for chemistry and continuity across the unit. And since Newhouse was the primary left tackle last season, you could even say that essentially all five slots will be unchanged. If I were AR or McCarthy, I’d be much happier with everyone knowing their jobs and who is lining up next to them.

If Wells leaves, we’re still in the position of finding a new center – but I’d like to see if we could have it stop there. Leave the right side alone and figure out who’s going to work on either side of TJ Lang, and stop playing musical chairs with the o-line.

by Ebongreen on Jan 27, 2012 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

Can't say

If Sherrod is fully healthy for training camp and OTA’s, I would say the job would be his to lose. But his injury may really hurt his chances for getting a starting spot, and getting quality training done in the off season. I don’t think we switch Bulaga over to LT either, he has settled in very nicely at RT.

On the other hand, I thought Newhouse played very well in the last two weeks of the regular season. Add in the off season to help his progression, Sherrods injury, my belief that Cliffy won’t be back next year, and I think he opens weeks one as our starter.

by Shoes31 on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

Move Bulaga to LT and start either Newhouse or Sherrod at RT

You want your most consistent blocker on the left side and I think Bulaga has enough experience now to shift over to that position.

by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

The Elegant Solution

Bulaga’s your best OL; play him at the most critical OL position, the one protecting the franchise.
Move Newhouse to RT, a less demanding position, rather than simply hoping he improves on an inadequate performance. If he does improve, you’ve hit the OT jackpot. Meanwhile, you give Sherrod more time to fully recover; if Newhouse flops again at LT, what next? Bring Clifton back from his recliner? Move Bulaga over, anyway?
There’s still continuity across the OL; it’s just that 2 OTs have traded positions.

by 1-10-1 on Jan 27, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't see Bulaga moving to LT.

He might have been better this year, but Newhouse BADLY needed an offseason to refine his technique and didn’t get it. Bulaga has settled in extremely well at RT and playing next to Sitton, so it doesn’t make alot of sense to move both the OT around when it would require an adjustment from both. If Rodgers has confidence in Newhouse on his blindside, then I think we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Bulaga is also a better run blocker than either Newhouse or Sherrod who both have more of the typical LT traits than Bulaga. Remember how much Bulaga struggled when he first switched sides? You would be doing that to both Bulaga and Newhouse if you did that now.

Bulaga had 11 sacks allowed playing the easier RT spot, Newhouse had similar # of sacks allowed playing the more difficult LT spot for the most part as Bulaga did in his 1st season starting alot of games. I don’t see how you think that makes Bulaga the better LT than Newhouse… Bulaga was at RT and had a very good season, but that doesn’t mean if he switched to LT he would be automatically better than Newhouse or Sherrod. There were also ALOT of scouts who thought Bulaga was a much better prospect as a RT than as a LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 27, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

What If...

…2012 Newhouse is on pace to give up 11.5 (or more) blind-side sacks by Game 6, say? Your Plan B is? (assuming Sherrod isn’t fully recovered, or playing at only 80 percent)
The status quo represents the triumph of hope over experience. In 2012, Newhouse will be facing Peppers and the Bears (2X), Suh and the Lions (2X), Aldon Smith and the Niners, likely Mario Williams and the Texans, and the Giants (again). That’s 8 known quantities where he may be over-matched, not counting possible defensive surprises.
It’s not a reason to reflexively adopt the Bulaga-Newhouse switch. It does mean you give it very serious consideration. Newhouse might make a dramatic improvement, but MM and TT don’t spend a lot of time in magical thinking.

by 1-10-1 on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

What if's?

What if Bulaga is on pace to give up 11 sacks as the LT? Then what? You gonna switch them back? Who’s to say that Bulaga won’t be overmatched going up against all the elite pass rushers? It by no means certain that he is a better LT than Newhouse! What is certain at this poing is that Bulaga is a better RT. But that don’t mean much… Same argument goes both ways! Your trying to take what is a sure thing at RT and creat uncertainty all across the OL! Does that make sense? You seem to think that cuz Bulaga played very well at RT that he will automatically be that good at LT! Talk about magical thinking…

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by Strohman on Jan 27, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

Alot of RT are abject failures at LT..

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by Strohman on Jan 27, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

As a college LT.

How many pro games has he played at LT? And like I mentioned, alot of scouts thought he was a much better RT prospect than a LT prospect. I’m not saying he couldn’t play it, but we have no idea how good he would be at LT. What we do know is that he is a very good RT! I don’t see the logic of moving a possible Pro Bowl RT, to LT when we already have 2 prospects that we already think can play LT, when we don’t KNOW that Bulaga would be any better at LT.

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by Strohman on Jan 28, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a Risk-Reward Calculation

Different people will reach different conclusions. In Newhouse we have—arguably—our weakest offensive lineman playing the most critical position. If Rodgers goes down, the season is over.
So, in the pre-season, you experiment with the switch. You’ll know by game 2 whether it has a chance of working. If not, you switch back. The greatest risk is that Newhouse has lost some time learning the LT position. Meanwhile, you’ve created improved OL flexibility in the event of injury. If Newhouse requires those 2 preseason games to vastly improve his performance, we really are in trouble.

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by 1-10-1 on Jan 28, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

In the event of injury?

Sherrod is the backup OT on both sides. Or at least at LT w/ Lang the backup RT. You seem to think judging by your conclusion that Newhouse is going to give up 11 sacks again. But you fail to remember that Bulaga gave up 11 sacks at RT, which is the easier position to play! At least Newhouse can say he gave up those sacks to some of the best DE in the NFL, who did Bulaga give up all those sacks to? Bulaga improved alot this year at RT, why don’t you think Newhouse can’t? He made excellent progress from his rookie year to become a functional LT and given that he will have an offseason working w/ coaches is likely to make another big jump in his level of play. Again I don’t understand how you come to the conclusion that Bulaga would be better at LT than Newhouse was… All you do is assume that he would even tho he hasn’t played LT in the NFL.

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by Strohman on Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Newhouse struggled when manned up with some of the best pass rushers in the NFL

a lot of left tackles look bad against JPP and Tamba Hali.

Overall though, he improved as the season went on, and with another offseason under his belt I see no reason why there shouldn’t be room for a lot of improvement on his part. Obviously he has to prove it in game action next year, but if he does continue to progress I’d rather have him than a rickety, aging, injury prone Chad Clifton, who btw is also a weaker run blocker than Newhouse.

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by sheehan on Jan 28, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

if i remember right

Newhouse’s 3 sack type games were when he was left alone with an elite pass rusher. It would be nice if he could step his game up but to struggle in that situation is understandable.

by gunslinger on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

MN works ONLY IF

He takes the offseason to study film, techniques, and works on quickness and strength…as in, if he commits to improving he’s got a good chance of being a very solid pass blocking LT. If not, he’s a run of the mill backup. We should not excuse his inability to handle an elite pass rusher, nor should he. If he works on himself in the offseason, we’ve got two good tackles.

As to Sherrod, no one should fool themselves. The severity of the injury will mean 2012 is probably a bust. Even if he gets back this summer, the ability of the bone to heal enough to handle the stress of pro football is slim for 2012. We’re going to need to spend a couple of pics on OL this year.

My dream draft, if there is talent at each position, is:

DT
CB/S (depending upon Woodson moving to safety or not)
DT/DE(for the love of God no injured in their senior year people!)
RB
OL
OL
QB (Russel Wilson!!!)

If we franchise Matt Flynn to get a 1st rounder for him, it’s a bonus and you pick up an additional DT or DE or RB.

by musashi7711 on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

No OLBs?

13.

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by Wiedmann on Jan 27, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

We don't need no pass rush!

My dream draft:
BPA
BPA
BPA
BPA
BPA
BPA
BPA

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Jan 27, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep.

Improves the team as a whole, and is consistant with the idea of simultaneously trying to win now and in the future.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Jan 27, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

And the Packers draft 5 QBs and 2 Punters

Sorry, I agree with BPA (usually) but couldn’t resist the joke.

by Packer Logician on Jan 28, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

As I am sure you know already,

merely saying “BPA” is simplifying things a lot.
But, it is the foundation for everything TT does in the draft,

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Jan 28, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

"TT takes the wildcat offense to a new level, with quarterbacks playing 6 of 7 skill positions"

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Jan 29, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

DT is not a need

We have 2 or 3 guys for that position already

by Chief Oshkosh on Jan 27, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

though newhouse struggled, he also should get better with a full offseason. sherrod might not be ready for training camp, so i suspect tt to either bring back clifton or draft another tackle to be the backup. The problem with brimging clifton back though is $$. He is old n keeps gettong injured so i think TT may end up letting him go this year.

by Katsuya89 on Jan 27, 2012 12:12 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

Couldn't agree more!

On all of it… Give that man a rec’d and someone, for gods sake, green him!

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by Strohman on Jan 27, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Greened!!!

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Jan 27, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw enough from Newhouse that I think he should get a shot

There were times where he looked like a top quality offensive tackle. I think he can make the leap, especially with a full offseason. And with Sherrod sidelined, I don’t think we have much of a choice…

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by Andrew Clark on Jan 28, 2012 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

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