Bears GM Jerry Angelo Is On His Way Out
by Brandon on Jan 3, 2012 11:01 AM CST
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PrintJerry Angelo Fired As Chicago Bears General Manager, According To Report - SBNation.com. After 10 years on the job, he wasn't the worst and he wasn't the best. He had some hits, and he had some misses. After their last Super Bowl appearance, the Bears have missed the playoffs in four of the last five seasons.
He shook up the front office two years ago, but that didn't seem to make it much better. While the injury to Gabe Carimi can't be blamed on the GM, the Bears have gotten little help from the draft in recent years. He also had an inability to pick good players on the offensive side of the ball (Rex Grossman, Cedric Benson, etc.).
It'll be interesting to see what moves the Bears make here. I doubt they'll pay for a big name candidate, but it seems unlikely they'll take a chance on a complete unknown.
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Jason Wilde already raised the possibility of Reggie McKenzie
What say you, Brandon?
by Jason Hirschhorn on Jan 3, 2012 11:11 AM CST reply actions
…and the Vikings promoted Spielman to GM. Not sure if that was to protect him from being poached by the Raiders, Bears, or Colts or it that was a sign of a big change for that team (full on rebuilding?)
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I know there was talk about breaking up the Wilf/Frazier/Spielman combo for personnel decisions.
I’m surprised it took them this long to figure out that was ineffective.
by Charlie Kelly on Jan 3, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
To me it was a strange move
they wouldn’t be the shape they’re in right now of not for Spielman. They really have shown an inability to build through the draft under him. Most core pieces the Vikings have right now weren’t drafted by the team.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Pretty sure that is one of the reasons he was cast off from Miami back in the day.
He’s made some good trades and FA pickups though.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
That's really been the reason
why they were able to be a final four team in 2009. It’s just that those guys who were part of the Vikings core has seen their play drop off (Antoine Winfield, Steve Hutchinson) or retire altogether (Pat Williams).
Right now, I’d say that defense has two players other teams would really covet, in Jared Allen and Kevin Williams. Guys like EJ Henderson and Chad Greenway are really just slightly above average. On offense, besides Peterson, would you really covet a guy like Harvin, who your never really quite sure what the migraine situation will be like.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Cedric Benson wasn't bad.
He just didn’t become anything more than inadequate until after he left Chicago.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Exactly
But you don’t get credit for drafting someone if they only pan out once they’ve left your team.
by Charlie Kelly on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention he traded for Cutler and Forte
Although he looks like a douche not extending Forte
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 3, 2012 12:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And then there's this, too.
thekapman David Kaplan
Mike Martz OUT as Bears Offensive Coordinator. Cites philosophical differences.
I can’t find any news sources to confirm this, however.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:13 PM CST reply actions
I assumed as much
Wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case.
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Preliminary link at the Chicago Tribune:
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Sign Prince Fielder!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Heh: Martz "resigned"
…after meeting with Lovie Smith.
Wouldn’t you have loved to be a fly on the wall during that meeting?
He was a POS coordinator, anyways.
I mean, really, truly terrible. And dumb.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 3, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
his philosophy clashed with the personnel they had.
you can’t effectively run the Mike Martz style of offense when you have a terrible O-line and terrible receivers. We’ve all seen what can happen when that is not the case (Greatest Show on Turf)
football does not build character, it reveals character.
lolol the Chargers are keeping Norv Turner and AJ Smith
wtf haha
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 3, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions
Good news...
for the Broncos, Raiders, and Chiefs
by DaveInTucson on Jan 3, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's like
they’re not even trying to win a Super Bowl.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
by jobe on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
conspiracy. Everyone is trying to get worse to help the Packers.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
by sheehan on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
more like they're trying to get worse
to help Tim Tebow and the Broncos.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
It's like
they’re even trying to not win a Super Bowl.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 3, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
This is not news...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 3, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
What a ridiculous decision by the owner. Amazing.
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Just another in a long line of poor decisions
Firing Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season was a much worse decision.
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Build Lasers And Stuff For More Ownage, Dude!
Well, there were reasons behind that one. Marty and Smith had a very “strained” relationship. What sucks for them is they should have grabbed Wade Phillips or Cam Cameron to succeed him, not frickin Norv Turner.
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I don't care what your personal relationship was
You don’t fire a guy after a 14 win season.
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by Wiedmann on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think this is a good move for them.
they drafted like shit for his tenure. wouldn’t be at all suprised to see them make a splash a la atlanta to try to get blackmon in this draft. lord knows they need a #1.
that guy was impressive in the game last night, I must say
football does not build character, it reveals character.
God help us.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 3, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
Sad day for Packer fans..
I was hoping Angelo would hang around a few more years
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011
Disagree with you there
I’m happy to see the guy go. I thought he did a pretty good job. For us, we should be happy Spielman got an extension in Minnesota. The Vikings haven’t really grown much of their own talent under him.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
In some ways it's gotta be rough for a coach/front office in the NFC North
when you are constantly being compared by local fans/media to one of the best teams in football. In a sh*tty division you only have to win 9-10 games and everyone will call you a genius. In the NFC North you have to figure you gotta get close to 12 to have a punchers chance. That ain’t easy.
it's not getting any easier the next few years with Detroit on the rise, and Green Bay still the 3rd youngest team in the league
football does not build character, it reveals character.
John Clayton saying..
Bill Polian may head to Chicago
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011
As long as he brings his son Chris with him
I’ll be very happy with that transaction.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Heard this too today....
not to thrilled about it. He did help build the Indy franchise that dominated the AFC South for a decade.
If you couple him with a competent OC now that Martz is gone, it could be trouble in the division.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Jan 3, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
*not too
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Jan 3, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe this will cheer you up?
The Colts are a pretty smart franchise, and the Polians weren’t fired just because they needed a convenient scapegoat for their highest loss total in 20 years.
honestly, IMO, he lucked into Peyton Manning
every bit of success they’ve had the last decade has been almost entirely because of Peyton Manning. He carried every one of those teams. it wasn’t like the Patriots with Brady where the defense was more important to their championships, or even like Green Bay last year where they had a superbly deep and talented overall roster that was able to overcome an onslaught of injuries.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Oh what do you know,
They just lucked into Luck this year.
Packers' Magic Numbers:
Clinch Division = DONE!!!
Clinch 1st Rd Bye = DONE!!!
Clinch Homefield = DONE!!!
Luck-y franchise
doesn’t make him a good GM though
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Son or not, this is NOT good. Polian has built three franchises into greatness…he’s a brilliant football mind. His son is not which is our only hope for that being a bad deal. I hear they are a two for one kind of deal so hopefully the son ruins whatever good the dad would do!
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Mike Sherman's getting an interview
for the Buc’s job. The chances he gets that job are only slightly better than the chances I get that job.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
would love to see the reunion with Sherm and Warren Sapp
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011
Why wouldn't you want Mike Sherman?
4 or 5 seasons of slow starts, 10 wins, and some of the most embarrassing playoff losses in franchise history.
What’s not to love?
Any success that guy had
was off the backs of the foundation Wolf and Holmgren had already built. Why can’t the football world just accept this guys isn’t a head coach. I’m sure he’s a very good assistant coach or he wouldn’t be getting all these interviews, but a head coach? Haven’t we seen enough of this film.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Sarcasm?
Because 1 winning season and a couple post-season losses (*) does not impress.
(*) And no, I’m not going to credit him for a bowl win that happened a month after he was fired.
I'm pretty sure
that was sarcasm.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Da Bears front office
I think if you’re going to clean house, clean house. Make Lovie’s job contingent upon the new GM’s opinion of him. Lovie has two more years on his contract – which typically means he only has one year left. With Martz “resigning” then what kind of OC are you going to get that will take the job for one year? So, you’ll make Cutler learn two systems in two years? You’ll draft for the guy coming in for 2012 and his system, but those decisions may not play out for the OC in 2013 a la Greg Olsen.
I’d bet that the McCaskey’s are simply too cheap to buy out Lovie’s contract and that’s the only reason they want to keep him.
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