Packers Re-Sign Jermichael Finley For Two Years And $15 Million
by Brandon on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 PM CST
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Packersnews.com | Green Bay Packers | Insiders Blog " Packers re-sign Finley, 2 years, $15 million. Kareem Copeland notes that the Green Bay Packers are set to pay TE Jermichael Finley $7.5 million per season, which is halfway between the franchise tag for a tight end and a wide receiver. Since it was possible that he would've argued that he was really a wide receiver, that's a reasonable point.
But this is really about paying him market value. The Seahawks signed TE Zack Miller for five-years and $34 million last summer, and in 2010, the 49ers extended TE Vernon Davis for six-years and $42 million. Both of those players are averaging $7 million per season. While Finley's average salary is slightly higher, those two players have received more guaranteed money then Finley will get paid in total.
The short term nature of the deal is probably a good deal for both sides. The Packers are only on the hook for two years without any long-term salary cap risk. If Finley can repeat his 2011 performance over the next two seasons, then he'll likely receive another mammoth free agent contract before he turns 27.
On the field, this was a move the Packers should have made. Finley is a legitimate threat. He doesn't put up big numbers every week, but he's a player that other teams game plan around. And those type of players are hard to find.
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Journal-Sentinel
says it is 2 years, $14 million – $5.75m in 2012 and $8.25m in 2013. Maybe there are some incentives in there?
Also, found this interesting from Mike Freeman of CBS Sports: I continue to hear from league executives that the Packers might make some sort of big move in the draft."
thanks Mike Freeman
Old loose-lips Thompson has been blabbing about his plans all over the league again.
by Anthony Dilweg on Feb 22, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I know
I interpreted that to mean we will sit tight and make our picks where we have them. But it is fun to dream.
I did not think it was even a remote possibility but I am starting to wonder if the Packers are going to try and do something with Flynn. The next several days will be telling if Driver and Clifton are released or re-worked. If not, Flynn is gone. Maybe they can’t get a first rounder for Flynn, but could they flip first round picks with someone to move up, maybe gain a later round pick too?
Of course, cutting Clifton and Driver could also signal that TT may dip his toe in free agency. Sorry, still in dreamland.
Dreamland..
I dunno why people think the Packers can tag and trade Flynn, but maybe I’m the crazy one..
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The dolphins could go for it
If they think flynn can be a franchise QB, and Im assuming they would not take Joe Philbins insight lightly. If he wants him, they might pay and give the pick.
We’ve seen the insane prices cassell and kolb attracted.
We could make the cap room for it
Especially if Wells walks. You better have a trading partner all set up though. I think we could tag and trade him for a second.
I have what's probably a dumb question
Does a team always have to be under the cap or is there a deadline at which point they have to drop beneath it? i.e. can they go over the cap to sign Flynn if they trade him before the draft or is the cap always in place?
"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."
they cannot go over the cap to sign anyone.
first and foremost, they must be UNDER the cap to make everything work. In order to do this, they will have to be 14.4 million under the salary cap when Flynn is signed. If that means letting go of Clifton for his 6 million, and having Woodson restructure, or cutting/ trading AJ hawk, then that’s a posibility.
Although I can’t see it happening. We do have some guys getting overpaid though, but also, we got guys who need to get paid real soon (Rodgers, Matthews, Raji). So I hope we don’t go completely nuts.
Still, my initial fear of having Finley line up as a Bear is gone. Thank goodness. Hopefully he’ll continue to improve and start killing people.
by Nels Winkler on Feb 22, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Like Ray Lewis?
Hopefully he’ll continue to improve and start killing people.
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by Wiedmann on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
LMAO!
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
There is a date by which they have to be under...
but not sure if that is the first day of the new league year or not. Also, just the 51 highest paid count towards the cap.
They have to be in compliance with the cap
For most of the time. During the season, the 53 players (and IR players) count towards the cap. During the off-season, the highest paid 51 members of the team count towards the cap. You can however be over the cap between the end of the season and the start of the new league year. If you are over the max cap amount at the start of the league year, contracts are voided in the order they are signed until you are in cap compliance.
I don’t believe you can ever sign a player and go over the cap amount though. The benefit of the Finley deal is that only 5 million is this season. So by cutting Driver and Clifton, we may have the cap space to tag and trade Flynn. And once he is traded, his contract is off of our books and we have that 14 million back in space. We won’t have the room to re-sign Bush or Wells though until that trade is complete, so we may lose both of them. Flynn for Wake and Miami’s 3rd?
I doubt it...
Flynn for Wake and Miami’s 3rd?
I doubt Miami would even trade Wake straight up for Flynn! Unlikely they want to give up a proven pass rusher, and probably best Defensive player, for an unproven QB. Even w/ Philbin there, I don’t think the GM would do that. I know I wouldn’t…
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by Strohman on Feb 23, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The only reason I mention Wake
Is because Miami is supposedly going back to a 43 alignment. Not sure how effective Wake will be in a 43 verses 34.
Wake
played a little DE at Penn St. and almost exclusively DE in the CFL. According to Wiki…
Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!
DEs in the CFL are generally smaller and faster than DEs in the NFL
not necessarily a great comparison
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Don't see any reason he can't play DE
Most 34 schemes seem to favor RDE that are about his size. Its also easier to go from a 34 OLB to a 43 DE, than it is 43 DE to 34 OLB.
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Well... We did it with Corey WIlliams, and the Patriots did it with Cassel, so it can be done...
And there are a couple other instances of tagged players being traded… SO… If it’s possible, although not probable, it is a possibility. In fact, it’s more of a possibility now than it was a couple hours ago, since there is little chance we’ll tag Wells, and since Finley has been signed to an extension… The only FA worth tagging is Flynn, so it only stands to reason that Packer fans suspect it is a possibility. (If not probable! : )
I’ve been for tagging Flynn since the end of the season… Even if it only got a us a high 2nd round pick, it’s one more pick to shore up the defense… Sure hope we do tag & trade Flynn.
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free agent?
what is this beast you speak of?
It hangs out right next to...
the unicorns
Ahhh,
Mordor. The only place you wouldnt want to take a Super Bowl ring. It’s all so clear now.
Nah
Mordor is real, we are talking super fantasyland.
According to T.O.
One simply does walk…into…Jeff Garcia!
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Brek Shea?
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by king.nothing on Feb 22, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Charles Woodson
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
Thought of him, too, but...
what is this beast you speak of?
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
Even if Driver & Clifton are dealt with in the coming days, that doesn't mean a tag & trade is coming
It’s logical salary cap management.
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"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."
I saw that too
I wouldn’t read that much into it, seeing as how TT doesn’t give information away leading up to the draft.
Yes, there are $1 mil worth of incentives.
Journal-Sentinel says it is 2 years, $14 million – $5.75m in 2012 and $8.25m in 2013. Maybe there are some incentives in there?
13.
"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."
"Big move in the draft"?
They haven’t even attended the NFL combine or all the pro days yet. They haven’t finished their scouting process. And TT doesn’t do impulsive. To say something like that now sounds like the work of E.K.L.U.N.D.
I know it seems out there but it just wouldn’t surprise me if he did make a big move. To lose the way we did in the playoffs, after the season we had was hugely disappointing. And what makes it so hugely disappointing is that if we had any kind of defense at all, we probably win the SB easily.
If there’s a guy Thompson thinks can have an immediate impact as an OLB/DE, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him trade up for him. The core of this team is solid, and if we added another pass rusher, we’ve got the potential to dominate the league.
by packallday555 on Feb 23, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
And who knows, maybe we’re going to try and tag and trade Flynn. I still think it seems like a stretch but if we did, we could probably swap 1st’s with someone, and acquire maybe an extra 3rd or 4th!
by packallday555 on Feb 23, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Backloaded
for the tag and trade kiddos! <3 free draft picks
Personally, I am glad to have this man back, if those above numbers are correct and his cap is only 5.75 next year than even better.
by Tracker J Dunn on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Also hoping those numbers are correct
Cap should rise significantly next year over what it this year and last year.
Good job TT!
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by I voted for Kodos on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Great news...
This was a deal that had to get done. Go put up some monster numbers JMike! Now if Thompson has any desire to sign Wells, maybe we actually could tag and trade Flynn. That would be sweet!
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by Strohman on Feb 22, 2012 9:18 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
meh,
Wells is pricing himself out of green bay, I hope he comes back too bacause I think he has some good years left, fact is though that he’s a 31 year old undersized center trying to capitilize on a great season, as he should…but if we sign him, take care of lang next year, then bulaga coming up…thats dough and Id hate to spend that much on guards and centers, not tackles.
Id hate to spend 3 straight first rounders on OL but konz from sconny is in our traft range ( barring trade up/down/tagNtrade w flynn)
I guess the biggest Q there is whether they think detrich smith can play. i have serious doubts aobut that, but i think the price/years on wells might just be too much
I am thinking TT
would go after one of the other 14 starting centers that is available in FA, I am sure TT can find the value he is looking for amongst the group. Or, he rolls the dice with EDS and Sampson Genus.
If the Packers were to draft Konz, they really would have to do something in FA to address either DL or OLB, not both, but at least one.
he did snag
a servicable brade jones and zombo in later rounds.
I know thats what were looking to upgrage…but im just hoping the secondary finds a way to improve
don't look for breakthrough talent in late rounds.
they are bonuses. you get your best players in the first 3. those are expected to start immediately and fill a need. right now, our greatest need is rushing the other guy’s QB. that was THE glaring hole in our team last year. let’s not make the same mistake twice in consecutive years. let’s get a first round killer on defense.
by Nels Winkler on Feb 22, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Not buying ED-S
We do have three tackles and Thompson loves versatile linemen. Any possibility Lang could move to Center? I seem to remember him being the emergency center.
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Now is the time to jump on my band wagon Stroh!! : ) lol
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GO PACK GO!!!
Keep wearing that 88 jersey proudly, Stroh! :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
by NorthStarr on Feb 26, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Finley
Finley?7.5 mill/year? Fine! Now if only he could catch some passes in the clutch (or any time,for that manner) he might earn it. However,my wife could catch passes better than Finley did the last part of the season…and she’s 50…and a Canadienne!
Sometimes you kick...sometimes you get kicked-INXS
Sir, I have serious doubts that your wife could catch passes better than Finley did the last part of the season
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by Wiedmann on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
spot on
they need to make a move there. bad.
What do you guys think as far as potential draftees at our current position? 28
I like vinny curry around thereish
Also, I wish janoris jenkins wasnt a dipshit that we wouldnt touch. He got his bump and run skills refined. it was against north alabama but still, freak skills. He will be a star or pacman jones 2.0
I think 28 is too high for Curry, it’s Perry or Cox if one of them is available probably. Also Jenkins is only 5’10 prolly too short for our liking.
by Tracker J Dunn on Feb 22, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
i foresee a tag coming for wells
funny how this deal comes out one day after an article about how difficult it will be to ink scotty wells to a deal. this deal getting done frees up the tag, or threat thereof, for wells and allow for consistency along the line.
by PackApologist on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Scott Wells will not be tagged.
We don’t have the cap room.
13.
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by Wiedmann on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
What is this mystical cap?
You mean we can’t go sign Mario Williams and trade for Matt Forte after trading Rodgers for 5 first round picks, signing Flynn to a long term deal similar to what Rodgers would be getting, then go sign Cullen Jenkins? I’m confused!
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Way too much to tag Wells
It would be cheaper just to pay him what he wants.
Good signing
Not crazy on the signing, but I know why we did it. Keep the weapons and fix the defensive problems.
Makes me feel like Wells is pretty much gone. Now Green Bay have a decision to make, and I will ask you all. Wells doesn’t resign and when it comes time to pick we have Peter Konz or a Nick Perry who do you pick up?
I don't think either will be there.
13.
"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."
Konz or Perry?
No brainer… Gotta get Perry. Luv me sum Badger OL, but we need the OLB fixed NOW. And I think they are rated fairly evenly.
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That is what I am leaning towards also.
But part of me feels like we need to protect Rodgers the best we can. EDS or Lang could play the spot right?
by king.nothing on Feb 22, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
My two litmus tests to a roster move:
1. How did I react when I read the headline?
2. How did my neighborhood Vikings fans react when THEY read the headline?
If both line up, I know it’s a good thing. And I was relieved. The Vikings fans…not so much.
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by JSOnline Castaway on Feb 22, 2012 10:04 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
I admit I was much more pleased than I thought I'd be!! : )
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Time to go buy an 88 jersey, Brent?
Got your message the other day; didn’t notice the light blinking on my machine ’til the next morning, when I was about to leave for work, tho. :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
Final thoughts on Finleys worth
There was an article on ESPN blogs talking about another article where the author stated he didn’t think throwing to Finley was all that productive compared to the other TE’s out there. So I went ahead and got some numbers from NFL, and this is where Finleys numbers rank against all TE’s with at least 30 catches (40 catches in parentheses):
Receptions – 14
Yards – 12
YPC – 5 (4)
% of catches for first down – 2 (1)
Amount of 20+ yard catches – Tied for 6
TD – 3
Those look like some darn good numbers to me. And they would have been better if he didn’t drop the number of balls he did this year. Good signing by the Pack.
by Shoes31 on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hey Shoes31 ~
I was of the mind, I didn’t care whether he stayed or walked… But, I was really surprised how pleased I was to hear he signed an extension! : ) LOL… Now let’s hope we can lock up Wells!
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GO PACK GO!!!
11 drops i believe, including playoffs (i think)
how does that rate for TE’s? glad we signed him though. curious as to how that stat ranks. you know shoes?
Life is too short to drink bad coffee...
Those look like good numbers to me, too, shoes31.
And, just imagine if you could find #s representing how much coverage he draws away from the other receivers, thus making their numbers go up by making their jobs easier!
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
All offensive linemen are assigned the same franchise tag number, even though contract values differ significantly between tackles, guards and centers. It’s not unheard of for a team to franchise a center — the Carolina Panthers did it with Ryan Kalil last year — but it means they would be guaranteed the same kind of one-year salary as, say, a left tackle. In 2012, Brian McIntyre projects the franchise tag for offensive linemen to be around $9.5 million, via Football Outsiders.
via ESPN: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/38573/franchise-focus-scott-wells-matt-flynn
it really seems kind of half assed to lump all OL together.
by Tracker J Dunn on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 AM CST up reply actions
I always thought that was kind of strange, also.
13.
"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."
Why would you franchise tag an OL worth less than 9.5M?
You wouldn’t.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 23, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
They weren't saying that at all.
Different positions have different values, even when sides are switched in some occasions (LT/RT). Centers aren’t in the same pay grade as any other position on the line, especially LT, making less across the board. It isn’t logical to determine the tag value as an aggregate from the whole line.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
You're right, totally misinterpreted.
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 23, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Great to hear
I was hoping we’d resign him!
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by RaY210 on Feb 22, 2012 10:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
For everyone interested.
QB – 14.4 MIL (down 1.7 from last year)
RB – 7.7 MIL (down 1.9 from last year)
WR – 9.4 MIL (down 2 from last year)
TE – 5.4 MIL (down 1.9 from last year)
OL – 9.4 MIL (down 0.7 from last year)
DE – 10.6 MIL (down 2.4 from last year)
DT – 7.9 MIL (down 4.6 from last year)
LB – 8.8 MIL (down 1.3 from last year)
CB – 10.6 MIL (down 2.9 from last year)
Saf – 6.2 MIL (down 2.8 from last year)
K/P – if you do this, you are seriously dillusional and will get fired withing 2 years as a Head Coach.
Hope this helps for numbers.
as for Wells, he’s gonna be too expensive to keep I think. If we do go for the TnT with Flynn, with presumably Miami in the 10th spot, look for us to make a run on DE Copels, OLB Upshaw, RB Richardson, or C Konz.
I can see arguments for all of them, but personally, I would love to see a top tier, dominating runner like Adrian Peterson come into the Green and Gold to take some of the pressure off of playing perfect every week in the passing game. to expect 100% perfection is our goal, but we discovered this year that there is an 11.25% change perfection will not happen, so we need to get a gold standard RB in our stable.
But no doubt about it, I’d be ecstatic about any of the at #10, and if they’re all available at #10, trade down to #13 and pick whomever is left and stack up a 3rd round pick.
Sounds like John Fox is out in Denver than
Work with a couple of Denver fans and the rumors they hear is Denver is going to use the tag on the kicker.
by king.nothing on Feb 22, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
perhaps the one exception.
but we’ll see in 2014 if he’s still the head coach. they’re probably quite under the cap so it doesn’t matter to them. but for competing teams, every penny saved on their kickers is a penny going to someone who plays more than 7 snaps a game and only has to warm up one leg.
by Nels Winkler on Feb 22, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
I think I remember someone tagging a kicker recently.
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Its happened alot
Tagging Kickers is quite common. Typically with the transition tag, but they do get tagged.
Wouldn't that be GM Brian Xanders' decision,
rather than Coach Fox’s?
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence!"
After further review,
The Munsters of the Midway still suck,
Skol is a four-letter word,
abd those upstarts in Detroit couldn't beat the Little Sisters of the Poor.
I doubt Richardson
Konz, too. 8/9 is too high for Konz.
13.
"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."
Zombie Al Davis will franchise SeaBass
Bank on it.
I think a RB would be a waste of a pick.
Richardson is awesome, and maybe if we could get him OK. I’d certainly like having him on the roster. But we have other areas to address, and we just don’t run the ball. Even when we’ve got our backs going we choose not to.
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When you have the MVP and best QB?
You’re still going to throw the ball a majority of the times. It would be nice to have a strong running game to complement our passing game, but that’s it. When you have an MVP QB and the best QB in the game right now, you let him throw the ball. Mike makes sure that the running game gets its carries each game, so its not like he just ignores it either.
Even with a top notch running back, I don’t see Mike calling too many more running plays. The effectiveness would increase, but the quantity or runs wouldn’t.
by Shoes31 on Feb 23, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this about this.
early 1990’s, Troy Aikman was arguably the best QB. If not the best, in the top 3. Yet they still ran the ball… Why? to deflect the pressure off of Aikman, set up the play-action effectively, and make calling defensive plays nearly impossible. How? Becuase they had a great o-line and a punishing running back (I’ll never say the best in deferrence to Barry Sanders). The end result? A 5 year dynasty, built on a balanced offense that made things virtually impossible for opposing teams. If bringing in Richardson brings us even one more title this decade, I’m for it. During those games where Rodgers is having an off game, like the playoff game, he can be the beast to lessen the pressure.
He’s actually the one player I sincerely hope we get above anyone else.
by Nels Winkler on Feb 23, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Aikman
Was a Top 3 QB mostly becuz of the running game he had! I don’t think he would have looked nearly as good having to carry the team like Rodgers does now. He was throwing against 8 in the box on early downs all the time. Take away some of his inflated stats cuz of that OL and running game and he isn’t nearly as highly regarded. He was a very good QB, probably a Pro Bowl player on his own merit, but not HOF’er!
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by Strohman on Feb 23, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Aikman is right up there with Elway and Namath in terms of the most overrated QBs
football does not build character, it reveals character.
That was at the beginning of the Cap
With the current salary cap structure, it is nearly impossible to have a good defense and a good passing game and a good running game. The cap was introduced in 1994, just after they won their second Superbowl. You can have two out of those three, unless you are very good in drafting and developing (as well as lucky).
I would very much enjoy a top running back, but that is just icing for the cake. And that icing could be very expensive.
Plus
To ignore the glaring defensive needs in the first 2 or 3 rounds of the draft seems crazy when you look at last season, We already led the league in ppg at 35. We saw what happened to the offensive heavy teams in the playoffs this year. You need balance and solid defense…. that’s how we won it all in 2010-11.
Aikman was not in the top 3 in the early 90s.
That’s as ridiculous as saying Eli Manning is a top 3 QB now.
13.
"Skip, once again, stop it; Be an analyst; don't be a douchebag."
Obviously the poll percentages don't round up
Unless there is 1% of people that somehow vote an invisible third answer…
I think you can click vote without selectng either option
and it’ll skip to the results.
Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.
What are the chances that...
the Packers signed Finley to a two year contract to see how well he does after next year, then trade him. If he has an outstanding year next year, his value will be at at a premium. Does Green Bay want to pay him 8 mil a year for then next 5 years after next season when they could get a good trade for him. I guess that depends on how well all the other tight ends develop. Just a thought. What do you all think?
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