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ESPN Mock Draft: Packers Select Ronnell Lewis

Todd McShay mock draft 2.0 - NFC North Blog - ESPN. In his latest mock draft, he selected Oklahoma LB Ronnell Lewis for the Green Bay Packers. He stands 6-2 and 244 lbs. While they could use an athletic outside linebacker to provide a pass rush, I'm not sure I like him in particular.

According to CBS Sports.com, Lewis "has a lot of ability, but is still relatively unproven and raw." He's coming out early in part because he was "struggling with academics" and the "coaches advised him to go pro." School isn't for everyone, but "he was moved around a lot in college" and he'll probably have a lot to learn to become an NFL outside linebacker. If he wouldn't do enough to stay eligible at Oklahoma, his work ethic has to be considered.

The Packers haven't avoided players with some background concerns (DE Johnny Jolly, TE Andrew Quarless come to mind) but they haven't been selecting raw, unfocused players with high draft picks. I'm not really excited about his possible selection.

FYI - The quarterback being sacked in the picture is Diondre Borel, who the Packers have converted to a wide receiver and kept on their practice squad all of last season.

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I would be disappointed if he was our pick.

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by Wiedmann on Feb 7, 2012 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

but i also think mcshay is way off. i do think it will be a 5 technique or OLB that can get to the QB

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by b3nihana on Feb 7, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

the guys that are slated before and after him would be great

Chandler Jones has nice nice and is a good athlete and pass rusher, and sounds like he could play a DE/OLB hybrid type of postiion, which works for us.

Vontaze Burfict might be listed as an ILB, but the guy is just a beast with amazing range and explosiveness. They compare him to Ray Lewis. I’d take that.

I would not want Lewis either

by rip_city_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:46 AM CST reply actions  

McShay must do his homework...

on every team but the Packers.

The role this OLB would have would be multi-faceted, requiring a player who is intelligent, teachable, and flexible. Flunking out of the “Ivy League of the Big 12” doesn’t give me much hope for Lewis.

And players with questionable backgrounds will only be selected by TT if there is “value” in that slot, to use a tired phrase. If Lewis dropped to the late 2nd, it may get interesting.

Finally, we need an OLB that will be ready from Day 1, not a “project with a high ceiling.” There is a gaping hole there right now. Potential is usually a lovely attribute, but not here.

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by JSOnline Castaway on Feb 7, 2012 8:31 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

This

That was my initial reaction, too. If you’re at OU, and your coaches want to get rid of you because you can’t handle the academics (a concept I’m struggling with because just how dim of a bulb do you have to be to be a pro-level football player at OU who can’t get a pass on his classroom work), how can you possibly handle the learning curve in the NFL? Can’t wait to hear what this guy’s Wonderlich is.

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by PackersOwnersBox on Feb 8, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Wonderlich

Is a good test, but it doesn’t really translate as much to defense as it does offense. Defense you need to play w/ aggression and physicality. You don’t have to be a great problem solver or quick thinker to play D!

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by Strohman on Feb 8, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

A total abuse and disregard of a 1st rd pick

Hopefully and Thankfully,TT isn’t that stupid or easily swayed by McShames thinking.

by Tarynfor12 on Feb 7, 2012 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

Is Todd McShay just trying to conclusively prove his idiocy?

Lewis is not a TT-type pick.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 7, 2012 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

I think just getting the best defensive player available is the way to go (and I’m sure TT would be the first to say that is more or less his strategy). I’m sure most would say the coverage problems were due to a lack of pass rush, but it’s still hard to ignore the fact Nick Collins was not out there, and who knows if he will be back (or even be the same). What’s the word on Collins, by the way? Also, Charles Woodson is still a beast, but he gets older every year and having a player like him is a huge advantage. There is no one else even close to his skill set on this team. The D-line has its own issues as well, obviously. Depth was a problem, and how long and Pickett and Raji be the workhorses on the line before they just completely break down physically? A pass rusher would be nice, but let’s be realistic – ANY help on defense would be welcome.

by smileyfacejackson on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

I think that you might be right within limits. Barring trading up to get a specific player, I would guess that at #28 there is a CB that TT rates a lot higher than any OLB or DE left in the draft, then he’ll take the CB. The same will go if there are DEs and OLBs available, TT will take whoever he rates the highest – not by position. I say within limits, because he most likely wouldn’t take a nose tackle or a run-stopping ILB.

by MikeDB on Feb 8, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The first problem here is that it's Mcshay.

The guy has never worked in a war room and makes claims based off events like bowl games and the senior bowl. He knows the top guys, and that’s about it. Kiper is the guy who knows the GM drafting tenancies and how guys fit in schemes.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Feb 7, 2012 2:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I like Lewis

In the second round. 1st round is way to rich for him. Not ideal size for a 34 OLB, and while he is a violent hitter, he hasn’t had any consistent production from a pass rushing standpoint.

He could make a good 34 ILB though.

by Shoes31 on Feb 7, 2012 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

McShay Must Be On Crack

There is no way TT takes Lewis the first round. For one, he is not big enough…a little light in the butt for a OLB in the Packers defensive scheme. More likely for OLB, TT is looking at either Vinny Curry out of Marshall or Nick Perry out of USC. Both of them are 250 plus. Andre Branch out of Clemson is also a possibility. But Lewis, no way in the first round. And TT goes DE he will looking at Fletcher Cox for sure.

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by DevilDog on Feb 7, 2012 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

WE DO NOT NEED A F*&^ING LINEBACKER!!!

Are you out of your mind?!?! We need, let me put this succinctly, a MONSTER DEFENSIVE END! We don’t need a linebacker to “bracket” Clay Matthews. We need a DE to draw the offensive double-team so that Clay can get to the QB, not have to fight a damn offensive lineman! Maybe 3rd or 4th round, but not first. You get a good DE, he get’s that push, BJ gets the push, you pressure a QB, have a wildman of a LB coming at him, have Woodson coming on the corner blitz, Bob’s your Uncle: Packers 37 everybody else maybe 17. TT had a very simple job last year, keep the team together! He let Jenkins go, and instead of me and 200 Greenville Packer Backers at the Corner Pocket exhorting our team to glory, I’m grilling brats and ribs for a Superbowl party where I’m rooting for commercials and Coors Light, not the team I own. I want the Packers for the next 5 years to be “perennial Superbowl Threats”, not “perennial Playoff contenders” hoping that the stars align and by some stroke of luck we make it back, we had that for 10 years, and it never happened. TT got us in this mess, he better get us out, or so help me God, I will be in the Atrium on July 28th and will issue him an ass chewing a Drill Sergeant would be proud of!!

by biggun33 on Feb 7, 2012 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

DE

What if that monster DE isn’t available at the end of the 1st Round? Do you still pick a DE just because he’s a 3-4 DE? All I’m going to say is good luck finding that guy. Standout 3-4 DE’s are so rare in the NFL, that’s why some people find it a risky 1st Round Pick. Not that he couldn’t produce for us, but that he wouldn’t come as much value compared to another OLB that can rush the passer. Don’t forget that another pass rusher (OLB) will draw attention away from Mathews as well. Sure, you can make the same case in the OLB. However, 3-4 OLB’s are easier to find than 3-4 DE’s in my opinion.

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by Jabooty on Feb 7, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

No, we need a LB opposite Matthews

We also could use DL help. I would hope our first 2 picks are RE & ROLB; I don’t really care the order (but since DL is a lot deeper than OLB this draft, I would side with waiting until the 2nd for a DE).

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by Wiedmann on Feb 7, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

The draft pool may force the hand to take OLB 1st and DE 2nd depending on how the picks fall ahead of us, although I agree that DE is more valuable to us. With that in mind, I’d like to see us move up in the 2nd round by giving up later (possibly supplemental) pick(s) so we draft late 1st round and early 2nd round to get the 2 guys we need.

by Icebowler on Feb 7, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You take whoever is the better prospect or value first

Either a standout OLB or DE will help us greatly. A standout DE is probably more valuable to us though, but you take whoever you have rated higher.

by Shoes31 on Feb 7, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope you dont mind Brandon

If I co-opt this thread to talk about the live draft that’s coming up over at MTD.

As some of you who read MTD may know, in 10 days a live mock draft will be run. I have volunteered to be the Packers rep, and as such have compiled a short BPA list to use for the mock draft. In order to get some feedback, I’m going to post a truncated version here. If you have any players you like or don’t like, that are listed or not listed, and/or if you have any thoughts about the later rounds let me know!

For the most part, my draft strategy is going to revolve around staying still and picking the best player. However, if a great prospect starts to fall (like Brockers), I’m going to try and trade up for him. Conversely, if no-one that great is available at 28, I’m gonna try and trade back into the top half of round 2 and target Curry as our top pick in round 2. I should note that I expect Collins will be cleared to return to football for next season. Also, Finley and Wells will be resigned with Grant not being resigned.

Round 1:
• Michael Brockers – DT/DE – LSU
• Melvin Ingram – DE/OLB – Southern Carolina
• Devon Still – DT/DE – Penn State
• Nick Perry – DE/OLB – Southern Cal
• Courtney Upsahw – OLB – Alabama
• Andre Branch – DE/OLB – Clemson
• Fletcher Cox – DT/DE – Mississippi State

Round 2:
• Vinny Curry – DE/OLB – Marshall
• Lamar Miller – RB – Miami
• Chase Minnifield – DB – Virginia
• Jared Crick – DE – Nebraska
• Kendall Reyes – DT/DE – Connecticut
• Stephon Gilmore – DB – South Carolina
• Ben Jones – C – Georgia
• David Wilson – RB – Virginia Tech

Round 3:
• Derek Wolfe – DT/DE – Cincinnati
• Michael Brewster – C – Ohio State
• Cam Johnson – DE/OLB – Virginia
• Trumaine Johnson – DB – Montana
• Isaiah Pead – RB – Cincinnati
• Shea McClellin – OLB – Boise State
• Marcus Forston – DT/DE – Miami

by Shoes31 on Feb 7, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions   4 recs

I see absolutely no reason to draft a RB in the 1st three rounds.

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by Wiedmann on Feb 7, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Additions

In the 1st you can add Whitney Mercelis… In the 2nd or 3rd I would say you could add Bruce Irvin OLB. I also don’t see any reason to use another high round draft pick on a RB! Defense, Defense, Defense would be ideal, but wouldn’t be upset w/ an OL in the 3rd.

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by Strohman on Feb 7, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Dan Kadar among others don't think Whitney Mercilus will make a good OLB. I wouldn't take him.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 12, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Since when is...

Kadar some kinda expert? Was just throwing names out there. If we have problems w/ pass rush, then you gotta consider him. Might be the best pass rusher in the draft!

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by Strohman on Feb 12, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Mercilus is a DE not an OLB

He’s a Bronco Nagurski finalist. If we could get him, I could sleep happy and not have to drive to Green Bay in late July to chew out Ted Thompson!

by biggun33 on Feb 20, 2012 7:30 AM CST up reply actions  

4-3 DE

a OLB in the 3-4

13.

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by Wiedmann on Feb 20, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice Shoes

I like the heavy DE and OLB emphasis in the first 2 rounds. I could definitely see us taking a DB in round 3 and I would think safety over a cornerback, with the big question mark hanging over Collins head. Not sure from the list if the DBs you listed are at the S or CB position, although I guess I could get off my lazy you know what and do a little research myself. Wouldn’t it be nice to get a solid player at each level of the D……..DL, LB and DB in the first 3 rounds? My bias for picking up a safety is probably a little heavier than most, but I just have too many flashbacks from this past season. If we go back to press coverage, I think our current corners will be back in their comfort zone.

I could see us taking a RB no earlier than round 5 since there have been so many good NFL RBs that have come from the latter rounds. Maybe OL in the 4th round.

by Icebowler on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The DB's listed above all played CB

Trumaine Johnson is a candidate to move to FS though. I think Collins will be cleared, so a safety is really only needed for depth if that happens. If not, Markelle Martin is a possible second round pick for FS, and Harrison Smith is a 2-3 round prospect for SS that I like and could contribute early. There are a few developmental safeties as well, but this is a weak safety class. If Collins isn’t cleared, will Burnett be our starting FS or SS though?

by Shoes31 on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Burnett would be the FS IMO...

Depends who he is playing with. Capers prefers to have 2 safeties that are interchangable. If they draft a Safety, look for a guy w/ speed. Someone w/ a sub 4.5 40 ideally. The Safety position is now much more about range then anything else. Thats what makes Collins so good… He ran a sub 4.4 40 at the combine and most teams were looking at him as a CB. Thats the position that he was running with at the combine. He was listed as a CB, not a Safety.

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by Strohman on Feb 8, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Range is everything at the S position and that’s what we were missing this year. Not only is Collins flat out fast, but he’s in good position to begin with so he doesn’t have to make up ground routinely.

by Icebowler on Feb 15, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Additions

Add DT Jerel Worthy- Michigan State in 1st round and Chandler Jones DE/OLB-Syracuse in 2nd Round

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by DevilDog on Feb 8, 2012 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info guys!

The reason I put Lamar Miller and David Wilson in the second is that I felt they would be great value picks in the second round if they were still there. But those are more luxury than anything else.

I’ll keep the additions in mind for when the draft rolls around. And if any of you have any favorite prospects or sleepers or small school guys let me know!

by Shoes31 on Feb 8, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Fletcher Cox

i don’t see TT taking Cox because he is more of a run stuffer than a pass rusher, and we have run stuffers on the dl. looking at his stats, he had 3 tfl for every 1 sack, while Crick, projected to be picked later had less than 2 tfl per 1 sack. Crick looks more like a pass rusher than Cox, which is what we need.

by jfizzle on Feb 7, 2012 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

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