Packers 2012 Free Agents: Matt Flynn
NFL Free Agency 2012: Matt Flynn, Mario Williams Among Marquee Names Hitting The Market - SBNation.com. Green Bay Packers QB Matt Flynn is the top free agent according to this list at SB Nation, but he's the only one of the Packers free agents that has zero chance of returning. The only question is whether he'll be tagged-and-traded (unlikely due to salary cap limitations) or allowed to leave without receiving a draft pick in return. The Packers might receive a compensatory pick in 2013 depending on how those secretive NFL rules work.
Is there a team that he should not sign with? Maybe the Redskins because that franchise is such a mess, but he'd still put up good numbers. He'd be a disgustingly good fit with Joe Philbin and the Dolphins, but he'd transition easily with the Browns or Seahawks (the two other teams mentioned at the above link).
Looking back it's amazing he's come even this far as a former 7th round draft choice. I almost wish he wasn't this good so the Packers would've had a chance to re-sign him as a backup.
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It's quite interesting reading HH's discussion about him.
They are pretty split on him. Some of them really like him and think he’d be a great fit, and some of them think he’s terrible.
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Seattle...
I know the obvious choice is Miami, but for some reason I don’t think he’ll end up there. Guessing that might be Peyton’s landing spot. My guess then is Seattle… He would be a good fit there as well due to Schneider being a GB connection and he would be a good fit in Carrolls offense. WOuld rather he went to the AFC, but Seattle is my guess.
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I don’t know, they keep bringing in QBs, I don’t know if that is where I’d want to sign if I were him. I’d rather have guys like Reggie Bush Brandon Marshall, devonne Bess, etc to throw to.
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He might rather be in Miami...
But like I said, I think Peyton goes to Miami… That means Miami isn’t interested in Flynn and doesn’t get the choice to go there. Nothing wrong w/ Marshawn Lynch and Sydney Rice… They’re pretty good weapons too… Not to mention Leon Washington.
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Leon Washington? I think he was pretty much relegated to KR/PR duties last year. Syd Rice has a pretty serious injury, who knows what he’ll be doing next year (if he can stay healthy). Lynch is good though…I just wouldn’t be drooling to go into a place where they traded a couple picks for the #2 guy and signed the #1 guy last year to a nice deal (not to mention the OC has been with the #1 QB for a while as well).
I would want to be in a different situation.
Also, not really sure if Manning will be anywhere next year.
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RIce played pretty well last year.
Considering he had Tarvaris Jackson throwing to him. Another year removed from the injury and I would say that injury is a thing of the past. If he had a decent QB throwing to him, who know what he might do. Not as good as Marshall, but then Bush is no Lynch either…
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Not talking about that injury. Talking about his latest injuries, the third concussion coupled with 2 off-season shoulder surgeries (already).
I like Rice, but the guy clearly is injury prone and the concussions are a HUGE concern.
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Golden Tate as well
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Philbin
knows that Peyton is short term solution and he wants to create long term plan (i.e. packers).
Bringing in Flynn is a better long term play.
I think they could pull off sign and trade with Miami, like KC did.
Miami would have motivation to keep Flynn off the open market and willing to pay for it.
Keep your fingers crossed.
by Acme on Feb 9, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think there is any chance of the Packer franchise and trade for Flynn!
Keep dreaming!
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Dreams
Flynn becomes better than Brady and on same level as Rodgers. That way I can hear about how Flynn is the best late round player instead of Brady.
The two can start the biggest feud in the 2010 era of football (Screw Brady vs. Manning). They can battle in Super Bowls, and destory each others defenses.
Make it happen!
the backup QB position in the NFL intrigues me
you’re expected to have a solid, competent one, but if they get too good they leave. QBs are in such demand that if you have two good ones, you can’t keep them both because of the salaries they command. The Colts got a lot of heat this year for not having a better backup plan for Peyton Manning, but I almost think that’s the way to go – get a guy that’s just barely good enough and will stay and play for an inexpensive contract.
by rip_city_swagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:41 PM CST reply actions
forgot to add....
that if your #1 QB goes down, it’s strategically better to suck for a year and get a really high draft pick, and then you get your QB back the next season. That’s better than being mediocre with a solid backup.
by rip_city_swagger on Feb 8, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Indy
Got heat cuz they never developed a competent backup. Your not expected to have one as good as Flynn, but you should at least have someone that can competently run your offense. Indy stuck w/ guys that simply had no talent for far too long and they didn’t develop. When you get a guy like that you gotta dump him and get someone else. They’ve had no one behind Manning for YEARS, and never seemed to try to find a competent backup.
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Jim Sorgi was the shit
til they cut him due to injury and the Giants snapped him up. Bad move, Colts.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Crap
didn’t realize Sorgi was out of the league now after tearing his shoulder capsule in 2010. Was hoping he got a ring.
who is the Giants backup anyway?
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh god
David Carr has a superbowl ring now.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't it be interesting
to see a list of all the backup QBs that have a SB ring?
source: profootballreference
Zeke Bratkowski, GB — I and II
Don Horn, GB — II
Babe Parilli, NYJ — III
Mike Livingston, KC — IV
Jacky Lee, KC — IV
Tom Flores, KC — IV
Earl Morrall, Balt and Miami — V, VII and VIII
Craig Morton, Dall — VI
Joe Gilliam, Pitt — IX and X
Terry Hanratty, Pitt — IX
Mike Rae, Oak — XI
David Humm, Oak — XI
Danny White, Dall — XII
Mike Kruczek, Pitt — XIII and XIV
Dan Pastorini, Oak — XV
Marc Wilson, Oak/LARd — XV and XVIII
Guy Benjamin, SF — XVI
Bob Holly, Wash — XVII
Matt Cavanaugh, SF — XIX
Steve Fuller, Chic — XX
Mike Tomczak, Chic — XX
Jeff Rutledge, NYG and Wash — XXI and XXVI
Jay Schroeder, Wash — XXII
Ed Rubbert, Wash — XXII
Tony Robinson, Wash — XXII
Steve Young, SF — XXIII and XXIV
Steve Bono, SF — XXIV
Jeff Hostetler, NYG — XXV
Steve Beuerlein, Dall — XXVII
Bernie Kosar, Dall — XXVIII
Jason Garrett, Dall — XXVIII and XXX
Elvis Grbac, SF — XXIX
Wade Wilson, Dall — XXX
Jim McMahon, GB — XXXI
Bubby Brister, Denv XXXII and XXXIII
Jeff Lewis, Denv XXXII
Brian Griese, Denv XXXIII
Joe Germaine, StL — XXXIV
Paul Justin, StL — XXXIV
Tony Banks, Balt — XXXV
Chris Redman, Balt — XXXV
Drew Bledsoe, NE — XXXVI
Rob Johnson, TB — XXXVII
Shaun King, TB — XXXVII
Rohan Davey, NE — XXXVIII and XXXIX
Damon Huard, NE — XXXVIII
Tommy Maddox, Pitt — XL
Charlie Batch, Pitt — XL
Jim Sorgi, Ind — XLI
Jared Lorenzen, NYG — XLII
Anthony Wright, NYG — XLII
Byron Leftwich, Pitt — XLIII
Dennis Dixon, Pitt — XLIII
Mark Brunell, NO — XLIV
Matt Flynn, GB — XLV
David Carr, NYG — XLVI
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After further review,
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by NorthStarr on Feb 10, 2012 3:56 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Graham Harrell was on the 53-man roster as well.
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I think he just included the second-stringers.
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Nope
Leftwich & Dixon
Lorenzen & Wright
Maddox & Batch
Davey & Huard
etc.
Maybe they were included because this was in the 3rd QB rule era, and Harrell wasn’t active for the SB.
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Actually,
I just went to each teams page at profootballreference, and listed every QB that appeared,
Thinking back, I guess if a guy was on the roster, and didn’t have an appearance in a game during the season, then he doesn’t show up, and so, was omitted from my list.
But, as a Packers fan,, I just brain-farted with Harrell.
All in all, though, still a pretty impressive list. :)
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lol
Jim Sorgi was the shit
til they cut him due to injury and the Giants snapped him up. Bad move, Colts.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Crap
didn’t realize Sorgi was out of the league now after tearing his shoulder capsule in 2010. Was hoping he got a ring.
who is the Giants backup anyway?
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oh god
David Carr has a superbowl ring now.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Triple rec
Aaron Rodgers, MVP.
The day LeBron James wins an NBA championship will be the day I stop watching NBA basketball. Needless to say, it looks like I'll be watching for quite a few more years.
Indy is not a good place to be a backup QB
Look at how many NFL starters have come out from under Peyton Manning who initially played as his back-up. I be hard pressed to name any. Compare that to (dare I say) Favre who had many his backups go on to start with other teams. I think it has a lot to do with Manning being the QB, QB coach, offensive coordinator and King. Think about it. You work on your game plan all week and Manning goes into the game and ends up audibling the vast majority of the plays based on what he sees so it makes no difference what the offensive coordinator is calling in. Peyton is going to do it his way. Thats not a very easy system for a young QB to learn under because its all reaction at the line of scrimmage for him and not many people can do that. He audibles way more than any other QB.
Along the same lines
If Indy had a good strong offensive coordinator and QB coach, they would probably end up butting heads too often with Manning and wouldn’t give Manning the play calling freedom he needs, even if it would help them better develop backup QBs.
Exactly. they NEVER prepared for a potential injury to their best player. What happened this year was something I’ve been expecting to happen for years. The Colts deserved every bit of heat they got.
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And that heat is going to turn into Andrew Luck
Not having a competent backup is the best thing they ever did.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
It's completely ridiculous to me
that Matt Flynn is a more highly-prized free agent than Mario Williams.
I get that QB is a slightly more valuable position than elite pass rusher…but let’s be real here. There’s a dozen more question marks on Flynn than on Mario.
Mario isn't even going to be a FA...
That might have something to do w/ it.
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You expect him to sign before free agency begins?
I think you’re in the minority there given the Texans’ cap situation.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Are they tight against the cap?
Just seems idiotic to let a talent like Williams go. I know he’s not a great fit for a 34 D, but I can’t see Houston not franchising him.
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The DE tag is over 12M
Not an easy cap hit.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
You would think they would have been planning ahead for him tho.
He’s just too good to let go for nothing but a comp pick! They gotta franchise him, either to keep or to trade.
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Until the Lions game
Flynn wasn’t going to be valuable enough to consider franchise-tagging-and-trading. Hard to plan ahead salary-cap wise on the idea that your backup QB is going to break all the Packers single-game records.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Wow misreading by me
Disregard that post – anyway, looks like their cap situation isn’t that dire, but who knows what Mario’s agent thinks he can get on the open market. Texans have to re-sign Arian Foster too I believe.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
I was of the belief the Packers would be able to sign and trade Flynn.
Seems like a shame to let him go without receiving anything in return.
Bulls Season
We'll get a compensatory pick, likely higher than the 7th we used to draft him.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
We'd have to cut Clifton and Grant I believe
in order to have enough cap room to tag him. This also means the tag wouldn’t be available in case we can’t resign Finley – and if we do then the cap will once again be crunched unless they shift a bunch of stuff around.
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
I dont see them resigning Grant or Clifton anyway, and Finley does not deserve a tag
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by OznCoop on Feb 8, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Jermichael Finley is worth 5.9M.
You really don’t think so?
by Archibaldcrane on Feb 8, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
Drops too many balls. Thinks he is a top 5 TE. He has the talent, just struggled staying healthy. Plus, he will want WR tag money.
by king.nothing on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
ONE year
And you act like this has been a problem for him for his entire career! Finley has always had terrific hands before this year. ZERO drops in 4 games in ‘10… Give it a rest already. Its a one year abberation that won’t continue. You have no idea what he’s asking for so don’t act like you do… In FACT, Finley has said he wouldn’t mind being tagged. Not too mention he’s only 24 yrs old and mega talented… He opened up the field and helped Nelson have a breakout year!
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by Strohman on Feb 8, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Personally though, still too many drops
Just like Jones and last year, I feel that we would be just fine without him. I like the TE corp we have minus Finley.
by king.nothing on Feb 8, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
TE Depth?
We very well may lose Quarless to his injury next year so if we lose both Finley and Quarless then there is a HUGE shortage of depth.
Q should be back for next year
May start on the PUP list though.
I like the TE corp we have minus Finley.
Don’t be silly.
by Chief Oshkosh on Feb 9, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
no way..
almost every opponent talked about game planning for Finley..the kid is only 24 for goodness sake.
If you let him go, he’ll sign with Chicago and haunt you for the next 10 years
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None of the TE are mismatches are they?
Quarless and Crabtree are your basic inline blocking TE. Quarless could be good, but he can’t get out of his own way. Crabtree is a blocker/FB type. Williams looks like he might be a good HBack type of TE. He is NOT a mismatch in any way. Taylor has a little talent, but certainly not Finleyesque… And he is a ST demon.
Finley had trouble w/ drops this year only. Highly unliklely it continues!
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yeah if Quarless had better hands and ran better routes, he could be real good, he's got the size and athleticism.
but, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts…
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Quarless is a poor man’s Finley, he has the same exact deficiencies but just isn’t as good. NOt sure I am all that excited about him. I like some of the potential lower in the depth charts but they just aren’t ready yet.
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How come...
The Packers never used Quarless in Finleys role, even when Finley was hurt or not on the field? They always had him line up as an Inline TE. Never split wide, or at least VERY infrequenlty! Williams has some potential as an H-Back type TE, but thats another different role altogether than Finley’s.
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Big deal. So because they didn’t line him up wide (most TEs don’t) that means he isn’t a poor man’s FInley? Anyway, I was mostly agreeing with the exact things you said.
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So by poor mans Finley...
You mean like Finley going over the Pitts CB trying in vain to prevent a TD, as compared to Quarless falling down when WIDE open on the perfect fake punt Flynn threw him. OK I guess if you consider those in the same category to say “poor mans” Finley… Go watch the film of those 2 plays and then lets see in what way Quarless is a poor mans Finley. I would say Quarless is an inline TE and nothing more.
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Finley Tagged
Of course he wants to be tagged. He is them guaranteed avg of the top 5. He isn’t a top 5 right know, should be, but isn’t. There is also room for him to argue that he is a WR, now it’s $9M. Hell tag me, I’m slower than shit, but I can catch.
You fail to realize...
That Finley being tagged LOWERS his earnings! If Finley were on the open market he would be among the most sought after FA. He would have more than a few teams willing to bid on his services and he would get a long term contract and the security that comes w/ it. He is basically giving the Packers a home discount by getting tagged as a TE. On the open market he would get a contract in excess of 7M per. Maybe significantly more… If he were to be declared a WR, it would serve as in impetus to get a long term deal done.
NFL GM’s would look at him as one of the best and one of the youngest TE’s in the NFL. He is only 24 yrs old and would have 8 more very productive years. They would look how he has matured since he was a rookie and see growth and they would look at his history and determine that his drops this year are far more an abberation than a trend.
Being tagged as a TE would save the Packer money for a year and give Finley a chance to redeem for the drops and prove his worth.
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That's silly
There is a reason players generally do not want to be tagged. Finley saying he doesn’t mind being tagged is basically him saying two things: 1. I am confident in my ability to improve and be among the most productive TEs in the league so that I will demand a big contract when the time comes, and 2. I am confident in my durability (and luck) that I won’t get some major injury.
Yeah. After this year, its likely that tagging Finley will only give him time to improve his stock after a shaky season. If we were smart we’d find a way to get him under contract now.
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Absolutely
If we wait for one year, the price only goes up. It is definitely the right time to set the value of that contract.
Pretty sure that will happen
Even if they tag him, its will be to keep him off the market and then buy time to get a long term deal worked out. Now is the time to get Finley locked up. Next year he’ll likely be even more expensive.
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Grant's contract is expired
Cutting Clifton could net us some cap room, though probably not enough by that move alone.
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Possibly, but it depends on the structure of the contract...
…how much of it is guaranteed, etc.
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Clifton and Driver
Would net us about 10M in cap room. Not that it matters… They aren’t going to franchise Flynn. Might as well resign yourself to the likely 3rd round compensatory pick.
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Thats what compensatory picks are for.
Hopefully we get a 3rd for him!
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What kind of numbers do you think Flynn would have to put up in order for us to get a 3rd comp pick for him?
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Based more on contract than numbers
That is why we should get something decent this draft for Jenkins, Colledge, and Jackson.
Also based on
NET loss of free agent talent and net change in contract numbers if we end up signing a free agent, which has not come into play very often in the TT era.
Numbers
Flynn get a contract in the 8M range (just guessing here) and puts up 3000+ yds and 20 TD’s and I can’t see it not being a 3rd.
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Michael Lombardi was asked how much money Flynn made for the Lions game,
He responded that Matt would likely average 10 Million a year over the length of his contract… Which really surprised me…
Can’t wait to see how this all plays out… : )
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We don't really know how good Flynn is.
He sure looked great against Detroit. He looked pretty good against NE last year, but that was the worst passing defense in the NFL. So he might be a Pro Bowler, or he might be the next Kevin Kolb. Lots of backups look good in short stints with a good team, only to be exposed when they have to be the #1 guy (and usually on a lousy team). I’m rooting for Flynn, especially if he goes to the AFC, and for some reason I think he’s the real deal, but we don’t really know one way or the other.
True.
We can speculate wildly about how good he’ll be on another team, without the offensive weapons GB has, however, think about the offensive system he played in at LSU. Not exactly a pass heavy offense. Is he the next Tebow? I doubt it. I would say he will at the very least be a competent QB. I still think he might go to WAS depending on how the draft falls. Forgive me if I messed up FA with the draft dates. They still do not have a quarterback yet, other than the sex-cannon, and John backup. I’d like to see him do well, as I’m also an LSU fan, and the Detroit game was a great treat for Packer fans. Was that game a defensive fluke for Detroit? We can’t know, yet. We can let the analysts say what they will. I have to say, he didn’t look bad in training camp when I went there. His two minute drill was decent. Then again, I thought Chastin West was terrible, and Torey Gurley wouldn’t even make the practice squad. Shows what I know. That’s why I’m not an analyst. Or maybe I can’t sell my opinions as well.
I wasn't that impressed with the New England game last year, knowing how porous their pass defense was
and I know Detroit’s secondary wasn’t great either, but he made several throws in the Detroit game, in windy, cold weather, that made me think he’ll be a very good starter somewhere.
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I don't see Cleveland as a destination, unless Holmgren brings in some weapons along with Flynn.
The Browns don’t have much to work with on the offensive side of the ball.
Doesn't Cleveland have 2 first round picks this year? That ought to help huh?
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Just asking here..
Aside from the Matt Cassel and New England..has anyone else used a franchise tag and them traded someone, anyone let alone a back up QB? I know a few years back the Pack used a tag and traded Corey Williams..but I thought that was a transition tag..
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Seems everyone has strong feelings about Flynn & Finley...
I could be very wrong, I have been before. (I thought Jerry Hughes would’ve made an excellent OLB for the Packers, yet he didn’t do squat for the Colts… : )
I just don’t see tagging Flynn as a risk at all. This is a QB driven league. NFL network is convinced someone is going to give him the reins to their franchise, to the tune of 10 mil a year…
That being said, I have no problem either way, if TT tags and trades him, I’m all for it.
As far as Finley goes, I think if we don’t tag Flynn, we should tag Finley, with the TE Tag, if we can sign him to a reasonable deal, fine, if not… Let him and his immature attitude walk. We won a Super Bowl without him, even with him being a distraction.
Finley’s attitude at times seems to be a ME attitude. I’m sure TT will draft at least one TE this year… Along with 2 fullbacks, and 3 inside linebackers… lol
Teddy I’m sure has a plan, which I may/may not agree with. I do know one thing, my hindsight will be perfect!! : )
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Other Free Agents
QB Matt Flynn
RB Ryan Grant
TE Jermichael Finley
OC Scott Wells
DT Howard Green
LB Erik Walden
CB Patrick Lee
S Jarrett Bush
They all could end up signing with other teams while our cap space is taken up with a player we don’t want. That is the risk.
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OMG, we could lose the chance to re-sign Jarrett Bush?
Can’t take that risk, then…
Honestly, though, there’s only two guys on that list I have any interest in retaining. Wells will probably price himself out of GB, and Finley wants to stay in GB, so I think he’d at least wait until our financial situation is worked out before signing.
I’m not sold on a tag & trade, but if it means losing Walden, Green, Bush, Grant & Lee, it doesn’t change my opinion one way or another.
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by Wiedmann on Feb 9, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why would Finley wait? You think he’s going to turn down the kind of money people are going to offer him to stay in GB? If a team with a nice QB comes a knockin, he’ll respond. He might give us a deal to stay but he’s not going to give a deal and wait weeks hoping the deal shows up.
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It's not like he has to worry about demand
There is no other FA TE like him. He can bide his time, wait for counter offers, etc.
Waiting might get him some higher offer that he didn’t have before.
Will he? That’s another story, but he has expressed a desire to stay in GB.
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Kind of supports my point though, if he hits the FA market teams are going to be going after him hard and the money is going to be big. He needs to be signed before FA or franchised or its going to get very expensive for us and if Flynn is taking up all the space its over. He’s saying the right things but that doesn’t mean he will give us a massive discount and sit around waiting a couple weeks. Why would he, that just doesn’t make sense to me.
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Of those guys right there...
I see us letting Lee, Green, Flynn, and Walden walk. I think we will resign Bush, and Wells. The only two I have no idea about are Grant and Finley.
On the one hand we didn’t have either in 2010, but this year our offense was nearly unstoppable with them. Sure, Grant didn’t really have as many carries as Starks but still. I guess we just wait the next 3 weeks.
TrevorR ~ I'm not trying to be difficult, but, in my opinion, it isn't a risk, because
someone is going to want him for their QB! I do understand where you’re coming from, but, I’m so confident that we won’t get stuck, I’d bet your house on it! lol
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My point is that its unlikely a deal gets done on day one so while our money is tied up with him, Finley may sign elsewhere, Grant goes, Wells goes…you might not miss all of them but you are talking about losing three starters in order to try to work something out.
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Hughes
I still think Hughes is miscast as a DE for Indy. I know he played DE at TCU, but I think he would have been a much better 34 OLB, than 43 DE. Finley certainly has an attitude, but it isn’t a ME first attitude. Its an attitude that he feels he should be the best TE in the NFL, not about he needs to be the 1st option on every play. If you listen to what he says, he is almost always saying the right things.
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Hey Stroh ~ I can admit when I'm wrong, I think you're grasping at straws when it comes to
Hughes… Let it go buddy! : )
88 rubs me the wrong way… I don’t know him, or what he’s like as a teammate… I am confident that we would be fine without his butt, but, if TT wants to keep him it’s his call. I’m on board either way!! I know why you don’t want him to leave… (You spent a Gazillion $ on a Finley jersey last year!! : ) LOL
Hey ~ I’m just disappointed that he couldn’t even get his stuff together in a contract year!! If he can’t catch the ball in a big game, what good is he?
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6 receptions; 159 yards
I’d take that statline from a TE in a playoff game…wouldn’t you?
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I read Indy
Is going to transition to a 34 D. So maybe we’ll find out… Finley has been a big game player. Look at his Monday nite appearances. I heard before one of the Packers Mon games last year that Finley always had big games on Mon nites. His playoff game against AZ must have slipped your mind.
BTW I was able to get my Finley jersey on the cheap. $25 so thats not gonna sway my opinion at all. :)
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I believe he will go to the Fins, unless . . . The Browns aggressively (I don’t think Holgren will be that bold) go after Flynn and then trade their #4 to one of the teams needing a QB. For them it is a hugh up as they fill their QB, they have one to trade, and they come out with a pretty high 1st round and an addition draft choice

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