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Ted Thompson and Brett Favre

There are a couple of articles at PackersNews and the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel about QB Brett Favre's comments regarding WR Randy Moss.

Tom Silverstein reported that the Packers had worked out a deal that would have cost a 5th round pick and a guaranteed $3 million contract for Moss. If that deal could have been made, then the Packers should have made it, but New England came in with a high 4th round that was originally San Francisco's pick for Moss. The Packers 4th round pick was lower, so they would have had to offer a 3rd round pick. Giving up a 3rd round pick for Moss would have been a problem because if he had worked out, it was only a one year contract and the Packers would have to give him a bigger contract to keep him if he wanted to stay at all. If he hadn't worked out, then a 3rd round pick was wasted on a one year bust. Either way it would have been harder to part with a 3rd round pick in that scenario than only a 5th round pick.

Maybe Moss is done. He is about to turn 30 years old and maybe the last three down seasons isn't a case of a great player in a bad situation but a player in decline. GM Ted Thompson won't let anyone know his opinion of Moss because he can't talk about players on other teams. Done or not done is only speculation and we won't know until the end of 2007.

But I'm really not interested in the alternate Moss scenarios. What really got my attention about Favre's comments is his relationship with Packers management. Here is what Favre said:

"I just want to win; maybe I see things the wrong way. I don't want to ruffle any feathers and I want people to respect me. Sometimes I think it's hard for them to let Brett go. They might think that we pay him a lot of money, but he still gives us the best chance to win. I've never been told that, but there are times when I wonder if I'm the odd man out here and they just don't know how to tell me."
It has seemed obvious that Thompson wanted to tear the Packers down and rebuild with his own coaches and players since the end of 2005. That might be good for some teams, but the Packers had just won three consecutive division titles before Thompson walked in the door. In 2005 he let three very important players walk away (LG Mike Wahle, RG Marco Rivera, and FS Darren Sharper), then the Packers best player from 2004 is lost for the season (WR Javon Walker), then RB Ahman Green is injured for most of the season, and all the free agents Thompson signed were busts. Every team in the NFL has to deal with free agency and injuries, but few teams have bled that much talent that quickly. Mike Sherman is made the scapegoat and Thompson won't even be honest with him and uses the old "we needed to go in a different direction" line. Thompson didn't want his predecessor hanging around Green Bay and he wanted to bring in his own guy. He had drafted Favre's replacement in QB Aaron Rodgers, so now is the time to start completely clean and let Favre retire. He can't release or trade Favre because Thompson's career in Green Bay would be on borrowed time if it looks like he shoved Favre out. Instead he hires a rookie head coach who wasn't a successful offensive coordinator and sets Favre up with a rookie offensive line. Favre probably shocked Thompson when he announced he wasn't retiring after 2005.

Favre is the odd man out and Thompson wants him to retire, but he can't force him to do it. Thompson did make up for his awful 2005 season by doing very well in the 2006 draft and free agency, but 2007 resembles 2005 because he has let veterans go, he didn't sign anyone in free agency, and he reached for some draft choices. Maybe Thompson is better at making decisions than Favre and maybe what has been done over the last three free agency periods and in the draft are the best long-term decisions, but his decisions have really hurt the Packers ability to compete over the previous two seasons. He should be honest with everyone and it doesn't seem like he is honest with anyone.

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I think there are two sides to this one
You have to side with TT on this one a little because you can't have your team held hostage by a player. I think if I were criticize Favre or anything, it would be him taking advantage of the fact that he KNOWS that HE IS the Green Bay Packers. Ted needs to do his job and Favre should let him do that.

However, I think you have side with Favre also because he is your veteran and if you think he can still win week in and week out for you guys, then you have to get him weapons. Maybe signing Randy Moss may've been a bit of a stretch, but at least show your superstar, your $13 million dollar franchise quarterback that you want to win for him. Reggie and Brett lead the Packers out of the dark ages and right now, you have to pay at least Brett the respect while he's playing.

"I'm in town to play the Dolphins you dumbass"- Brett Favre

by TkGoUWGB on May 13, 2007 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Favre the GM
I think Favre would make a terrible GM and I'm not trying to say that Favre is right and Thompson is wrong. I'm not trying to say that the Packers should show Favre some respect either because football can be a cold business. I don't like what Thompson has done to make the Packers better.

Thompson inherited a team that had been to the playoffs in four consecutive seasons, and instead of trying to build on the foundation that existed he started tearing it down. Maybe that was the best decision but I'm playing back seat GM and I disagree with Thompson. Everything Thompson did after the 2005 season (draft two rookies for the offensive line, new rookie head coach, new blocking scheme) seemed designed to encourage Favre to leave. It seems like Thompson thinks the Packers are better off without Favre now and better letting Aaron Rodgers go through his growing pains. The Packers have a better chance with Favre as the QB in 2007.

by Brandon on May 14, 2007 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't want Favre to be a GM either
Right now he's showing a lot of greed, and that was before I realized he was going to give up part of his check. He wants stuff to be done for him. I think you're right though about Ted though. This isn't a very Favre friendly offense he's got right now. Looks like he has what he needs to give Aaron Rodgers and his mediocre arm (in comparison to Brett's), but not Favre.
"I'm in town to play the Dolphins you dumbass"- Brett Favre

by TkGoUWGB on May 14, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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